Poesta on 28/2/2009 at 23:59
'Trickster' becomes 'taffer'? I don't think so.
Quote:
Verb(2): "You mean he managed to fit -both- his hands up his gaping asshole?! You're taffing me!"
I sure don't remember that conversation from any of the games. :rolleyes:
jtr7 on 1/3/2009 at 00:09
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=161912#post161912)
Also, the Trickster connection comes from this UNUSED half-conversation in the game files:
[INDENT]
HM1C0351: Have thou learnt nothing? That name soils thy mouth.
HM1C0352: Nay, simpleton. Knowest thou not to say 'Taffer' is to speak the name of the defeated adversary, the Trickster? 'Tis a corruption--a cloaking that acknowledges him without intent--and gives him an entry into thy thoughts.
HM1C0353: A foe is best contested in the light, not the shadows! Allow none to so disguise themselves before thee lest thou slip into the shadows thyself, and so be lost.[/INDENT]
Anyway, it's just a euphemism for the harsher curse words. Although Laura "boojum" Baldwin just made it up, there are some real world uses of a similar word, including the poem "Taffy Was a Welshman", and coincidentally as disparaging term.
sNeaksieGarrett on 1/3/2009 at 00:27
That's and interesting thread... and while I'm sure we could go on and on and argue about what taffer means, where it came from etc.... I think we can just make our own definitions for the term since it's for the realm of thief.:)
Though, I recall reading long ago that someone said it was perhaps written in a very very old library English dictionary or something:erm: But like someone said on that thread you linked to jtr7, whether boojum made it up or not, it's impossible to tell whether she was the first one to come up with it if it is indeed lost somewhere in an old book.
fett on 1/3/2009 at 03:02
BA wins the thread! :thumb:
Is that SR or Lonestar?
JonesCrusher on 1/3/2009 at 03:20
When I was a little girl I had a nursery rhyme book and in it was...
"Taffy was a Welsh man,Taffy was a Thief,
Taffy came to my house,and stole a piece of meat."
I cant remember the rest but Taffy and Taffer sound quite similar.... maybe Taffer is an old english word for thief..or maybe not:D
.I will dig further on this...
just found this (
http://www.rhymes.org.uk/a79-taffy-was-a-welshman.htm)
(I appologise to the Welsh,for dragging this up,no harm or victimisation was intended):(
BrokenArts on 1/3/2009 at 03:38
Quote Posted by fett
BA wins the thread! :thumb:
Is that SR or Lonestar?
;) I've had that wave for so long now. It doesn't sound like SR. I'm gonna say Lonestar, I'm not 100% on that. The pitch between the two, not the same. SR, has a deeper voice.
Jah on 5/3/2009 at 10:12
Quote:
The children's nursery rhyme 'Taffy was a Welshman' has its origins in Celtic Mythology. Amaethon (from which the name Taffy is derived) was the God of Welsh Agriculture.
I wonder where they got that from? According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "Taffy" (as a slang word for a Welshman) is a corruption of the name David (or Dafydd), with references dating back to the early 18th century. No mention of Amaethon.
I really like the way the words "taffer" and "taff" are used in Thief; they can mean slightly different things depending on the context (I remember some old thread where someone argued that "taff" is just a euphemism for "f**k", but it's not that simple), yet I believe everyone gets a pretty good idea of what they mean. :D
Jah on 13/3/2009 at 20:59
This topic reminds me of something I've wondered about for some time... How has "taffer" been translated in the German and French versions of the game? Did they come up with a similar, made-up word (Ein Taffer? Un taffeur? :p ) or just replace it with an existing word?
