Stitch on 10/8/2010 at 21:04
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Taking it all literally and being happy with that conclusion is fine if you want to see it that way, but it doesn't mean the open-ended bits aren't there for others to jigger an alternate interpretation around - demagogue's views of it, for instance, are fascinating because I would never have thought to have looked at the script from that point of view.
I'll say this:
Inception sure does provide a springboard for ideas. Some comb through the movie and connect existing pieces to write new plotlines unfolding just behind the curtain, whereas some (like demagogue) assemble larger theories about filmmaker intent that may or may not directly contradict actual stated filmmaker intent (as it does for demagogue). As for myself, I've spent some serious time figuring out how I as a would-be writer would "fix"
Inception, a thought exercise that ranks as perhaps the least productive yet.
Sulphur on 10/8/2010 at 21:22
We all tend to do that at some point - heaven knows, a lot of movies deserve that treatment (Shutter Island, for instance). I'm not saying Inception doesn't - I certainly wouldn't have minded being more connected to Cobb (which Shutter Island managed to an extent with Edward Daniels).
Inception works as a springboard because, sometimes, different pieces can click together to reveal a different picture. Interpretations can be open due to this, and the fact that there are a good few that can neither be proved nor disproved makes them equally valid, I think.
Scots Taffer on 10/8/2010 at 22:52
Quote Posted by Stitch
I'll say this:
Inception sure does provide a springboard for ideas. Some comb through the movie and connect existing pieces to write new plotlines unfolding just behind the curtain, whereas some (like demagogue) assemble larger theories about filmmaker intent that may or may not directly contradict actual stated filmmaker intent (as it does for demagogue). As for myself, I've spent some serious time figuring out how I as a would-be writer would "fix"
Inception, a thought exercise that ranks as perhaps the least productive yet.
Share! :D
also wtf - when does Cobb say he's Ariadne's father??
ZylonBane on 10/8/2010 at 22:59
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Inception works as a springboard because, sometimes, different pieces can click together to reveal a different picture. Interpretations can be open due to this, and the fact that there are a good few that can neither be proved nor disproved makes them equally valid, I think.
"Equally valid" is certainly the diplomatic way of putting it.
Sulphur on 10/8/2010 at 23:25
Somehow, I knew somebody'd come up with a smartass answer to that.
Stitch on 11/8/2010 at 00:05
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
also wtf - when does Cobb say he's Ariadne's father??
He doesn't, but that doesn't stop nerds!
How to "fix"
Inception, coming soon.
ZylonBane on 11/8/2010 at 00:49
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Somehow, I knew somebody'd come up with a smartass answer to that.
Just because it's smartass, doesn't mean it's not true.
Scots Taffer on 11/8/2010 at 01:26
I missed the opportunity to revisit Inception last night but I am definitely going to endeavour to see it on the big screen again, because if any of the theories hold water with me (I don't think we ever saw reality in Inception) it's that Cobb has been lost in a dream since Mal died and Ariadne is sent in as a subconscious therapist/extractor of sorts to help pull him from the dream and get over the guilt of Mal's death. I disagree with the link above that suggests there is little evidence to support this but I need to see the movie again to confirm it.
I don't think the true intent of the final image of the spinning top was meant to be a wry "OR WAS IT" to tickle the audience's imagination, I think it was meant to be a stark statement. It was all a dream, just not in the JR Ewing sense.
Stitch on 11/8/2010 at 01:34
The top starts to wobble right as the movie ends. It could go either way, which is the entire point.
Scots Taffer on 11/8/2010 at 06:01
WHAT ABOUT THE LAWS OF PHYSICS
but seriously, the wobble is the giggle for the audience's benefit if anything