Fafhrd on 13/8/2010 at 05:39
The suicides in Limbo were to prep their minds to wake up a layer, the kick of the fortress detonation did the actual waking. The song does the kick prep for the other layers, which is why Arthur didn't wake up when the van rolled.
Scots Taffer on 13/8/2010 at 05:39
FYI meaning FUCK YOU INDEED. ahahaha.
Taffer36 on 13/8/2010 at 05:41
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
The suicides in Limbo were to prep their minds to wake up a layer, the kick of the fortress detonation did the actual waking. The song does the kick prep for the other layers, which is why Arthur didn't wake up when the van rolled.
I think the suicides do the actual waking, otherwise what would have woken Cobb and Mal from their limbo when they laid on the railroad track?
Fafhrd on 13/8/2010 at 05:57
Shit, actually I'm misremembering. The fortress explosion was to bring Cobb and Ariadne out of Limbo in the event that they weren't able to find Fischer before the big kick (they went under using the machine, not because they'd died in any of the other layers). Cobb tells Eames to give them a set amount of time to synchronize a kick with the hotel and van layers. Fischer and Saito had to die in Limbo to come out of it. Since Limbo doesn't have a set time dilation factor, it didn't matter that Fischer and Ariadne sent themselves out who knows how long before Cobb and Saito did.
SubJeff on 13/8/2010 at 06:52
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Explosives don't count.
Asking the architect to make a change to the layout before they even entered the dream doesn't count either.
You weren't paying attention. Eams adds an alternate route in the snow level and Cobb has to ask Ariadne about it. She's reluctant to tell him because if he knows then Mol will know. How you, the most anal of all people, missed this I don't know. You must be getting old dude.
d0om on 13/8/2010 at 13:15
I'm with Zylon on this one. I thought that conversation was about changes made from the planning stage before making the world, not changes once they were there.
ZylonBane on 13/8/2010 at 14:55
Right. Otherwise, how would Cobb expect her to know about it?
SubJeff on 13/8/2010 at 16:41
Because she's the Architect and should know if someone has alerted the architecture.
ZylonBane on 13/8/2010 at 17:15
Oh, right... magic Architect powers. :rolleyes:
Taffer36 on 13/8/2010 at 19:31
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Have people discussed the COBB'S RING AS THE AUDIENCE'S TOTEM theory yet?Well I'll just say it then, because I'm yet to confirm but curious.
Some people have pointed out that Cobb is only wearing his ring whenever the scene is a dream-sequence, and the ring is off during reality. Basically, the top is NOT a trustworthy totem because Cobb specifically states that people cannot touch your totem, and people manhandle his totem a few times in the plot.
So, if you follow this theory, the ring is meant to be the TRUE totem for telling if Cobb is in a dream or not. And many claim that he is NOT wearing the ring at the end and is therefore awake. Unfortunately, I haven't watched the film since I heard this theory, but two friends have after I explained it to them and one claims that the theory is indeed true, while the other claims that it's impossible to tell whether his ring is on at the end or not.
