SubJeff on 7/9/2010 at 08:21

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It's not that everyone understands how magnets work, but rather that we know magnitism has a rational scientific basis and is not, in fact, a miracle.

The entire song is an expression of ignorance with one of the idiots at some point even says something along the lines of "Scientists, fuck off you liars".

If they'd altered the angle a little it wouldn't have been so bad and would have been a celebration of nature/science. Instead they call all these cool, yet perfectly explainable, phenomena "miracles". There is much in nature and technology that I wouldn't claim to fully understand but I know that there are people that do and I know that there is a scientific basis for them and that they are not miracles.

Vivian on 7/9/2010 at 12:27

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Subj, getting angry with the insane clown posse is as much use as getting angry with sewage. You gotta rise above.

june gloom on 7/9/2010 at 22:54

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The best ICP fans are the ones you don't know are ICP fans. They're smart enough to keep it a secret and self-aware enough to know why it's almost universally hated, they don't do anything with the dumbass makeup or clothes or anything, they just listen to it from time to time when nobody's home.

And then when they're done, they go right back to, shit I dunno, David Sylvian or something.

demagogue on 8/9/2010 at 00:02

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Anyway to get back to the point of that whole tangent to begin with ... For some reason I got the feeling people flocked to Inception for about the same reason they flocked to Avatar. They both had some nominal claim to being "ground-breaking" in the popular-mind (although both were far from it, even pretty derivative), and most ground-breaking in the kind of style, like "how CG was meant to be", and the dream-world and alien-world (or I guess in Avatar's case: the dream-world-of-the-alien-world?) are just hooks to make people feel like now we're really doing something revolutionary with CG and movie-storytelling and seeing reality in a whole new way or something, we'll never look at reality the same again... And the punch-line is that that's just the way the movies are packaged; you can't separate the "radical new way of thinking" from the "how CG was meant to be" parts of them. That's the common thread with Avatar and Inception that made them all the rage I think.

Even though I liked to think about some parts of Inception, I actually don't buy into that part much (I said from the beginning I think The Prestige is still Nolan's best movie IMO)... Like I felt the original Solaris gave me a new way to see reality; this ocean-being-thing manifesting my thoughts into reality and me interacting with them, or it, or myself... not sure, but I look at the connection between me and my thoughts differently.

But Avatar and Inception ... just gave me the packaging of some new way of thinking with the CG to package it. People don't want to feel smart; I think they want the illusion that they're part of something really new and revolutionary, but just the packaging for it (lord knows they'd turn in disgust or be bored to tears if it were really new and revolutionary).

Thirith on 8/9/2010 at 10:17

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I have to say, I find Nolan's detachedness more moving in those films where it works than the more usual thing where movies are blatantly emotionally manipulative. I rarely like it when a film tells me how to feel about characters, and I appreciate that Nolan leaves this up (almost) entirely to the audience.

I wouldn't want all films to be like this, but Nolan's cerebral style of telling stories with big emotional repercussions makes for a very welcome change IMO.