Queue on 16/7/2009 at 05:16
What about Spartacus, Lolita, and (my favorite) Paths of Glory?
...never saw The Killing.
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Angel Dust on 16/7/2009 at 05:20
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And it's probably a fair observation to be perfectly honest, however I would guess that having not had that exposure to more arthouse or experimental movies in my youth definitely moulded my cinematic sensibilities to the more conventional end.
That said, one of my favourite movies of recent years was The Fountain. I also have a soft spot for Lynch. Those are fairly freeform. Not in the same league but I was utterly captivated by Baraka a week or two ago also.
What films would you recommend for expanding one's cinematic consciousness?
I spent my youth watching the Indy, Star Wars and Back To The Future trilogies, as well as plenty of Arnie flicks, over and over again. I was aware you liked
The Fountain as that was what I was thinking of when I wrote 'generally' :cheeky:
As for recommendations there is no harm in starting with the big names. Fellini was someone I immediately fell in love with although I would think that perhaps his stuff might be a bit 'freeform floaty' for you. However his films have a lightness of touch and are generally not ponderous, serious arty types.
8 1/2 would be my pick.
Bergman is someone I have a mixed view on. I loved
The Seventh Seal and
Wild Strawberries but found
Smiles of a Summer Night and
The Virgin Spring to be a bit dull. You can't really go wrong with
The Seventh Seal though as it's quite accessible as well as being suprisingly humourous. Not rolling in the aisles funny but Death as well as the knight's squire have some dry lines.
From time to time what I do is check out what is generally seen as a famous director's, who I haven't seen anything of, top work, and I'm quite lucky to have a highly knowledgable film academic running the local DVD store, and go from there. Sometimes I find unexpected delights, like Fellini's stuff, and sometimes I strike out, the two Antonioni films I've seen have been dull, but it's always interesting.
Some random recommendations:
Badlands,
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie,
Fitzcarraldo,
Three Colours: Red, Cocteau's
Beauty and The Beast.
What do you think of Kurosawa Scots? I would think that most of his work would be right up your alley.
Queue on 16/7/2009 at 05:22
(loved Dreams)
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Aja on 16/7/2009 at 05:23
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I'm game for getting outside my comfort zone, however I'm fully aware that I have no literary aspirations when it comes to entertainment.
I'm not even a cinemaphile but this pains me. You meet all the qualifications for literary enjoyment, and with only a bit of effort the payoff can be, well, profound.
not to mention you get to act all snotty toward whatever you deem "sub-literary"
Tonamel on 16/7/2009 at 05:32
He says he's not interested in artsy/literary films, but he also said he was captivated by Baraka.
Not that he's wrong, of course. Baraka >>> Koyanisqaatsi all the way. (Sorry, Glass fans, it's true.)
Scots Taffer on 16/7/2009 at 05:34
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What about Spartacus, Lolita, and (my favorite) Paths of Glory?
...never saw The Killing.
And I never saw any of the preceding movies either.
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As for recommendations there is no harm in starting with the big names.
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What do you think of Kurosawa Scots?
Funny when I originally wrote my post I put in "I'm sure you'll recommend Bergman and Felini" so I guess I should get around to them.
Also, can you believe that I've never seen a single Kurosawa?
I've downloaded Seven Samurai and still not found the time to watch it in one sitting.
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I'm not even a cinemaphile but this pains me. You meet all the qualifications for literary enjoyment, and with only a bit of effort the payoff can be, well, profound.
not to mention you get to act all snotty toward whatever you deem "sub-literary"
I already get to act snobby with regard to people who say ITS POPCORN CHEWING ENTERTAINMENT to pass over any piece of shit as cinema as I actually require my entertainment to not be offensively puerile.
However, it should be said that I fully regard this lack of genuine interest in my expanding my horizons a failing. Especially with books, I just cannot find the time though - a lame excuse but one that I am clinging to tenaciously.
edit: It's like Tonamel says, it's not that I can't enjoy them but maybe it's just that I have high standards and don't give much weight to artistic/literary movies (and books) that don't sell their artistic premise to me entirely and in a short space of time.
oudeis on 16/7/2009 at 05:37
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Full Metal Jacket - Absolute tour de force of mounting tension and unease for the first hour or so, the second half is patchy, it's funny, horrifying and sort of bland in an ineffective way that sort of lets the movie down.
That's because Kubrick wasn't faithful to the (
http://www.gustavhasford.com/short.htm) book (scroll down for the link to read it). Especially (
http://www.gustavhasford.com/grunts.htm) the ending, which, to put it mildly, completely blows away the climax of the film.
Angel Dust on 16/7/2009 at 05:40
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And I never saw any of the preceding movies either.
Funny when I originally wrote my post I put in "I'm sure you'll recommend Bergman and Felini" so I guess I should get around to them.
Also, can you believe that I've never seen a single Kurosawa?
I've downloaded Seven Samurai and still not found the time to watch it in one sitting.
You should definitely check out
The Killing as it's one of the great heist movies, depsite the somewhat naff ending.
For Kurosawa:
Yojimbo,
Sanjuro,
Stray Dog,
High and Low,
Ikiru and
Rashomon are all great, are most are not too long ;) And yeah, Bergman and Fellini are the obvious answers but I think it's better to start there than to go jumping into Herzog and Tarkovsky.
Scots Taffer on 16/7/2009 at 05:42
Herzog had a movie out a while back that looked fascinating - (
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1093824/) Encounters at the End of the World. Did you see it at all?
Oh and I loved Grizzly Man. Of course, these are docus.
Queue on 16/7/2009 at 05:44
I was just about to mention Herzog. One of the most interesting films I've ever watched was Heart of Glass--wouldn't say the greatest film, but definitely original in "execution".
And give some of the old masters a whirl: like Frtiz Lang and John Huston.