Solabusca on 4/8/2006 at 01:30
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As for the fact I'm British, you're probably lying and are jealous, but hey you haven't said anything of worth on the thread now, why start now.
Why would I be jealous of an equivocating little pup?
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Anyway, like I've said I'm a busy man with my hard disc crashing from a cyclic redundancy error, not that you'd understand but maybe you can look it up and then maybe education will be the key to your multitude of woes.
Poor boy. Allow me to recommend (
http://www.ubcd4win.com/) this solution. Or you could go on to this
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But as I said, short, dim and furry, I don't really buy it.
Well, don't let us hold you up, hit that power button and vanish for a few days/weeks/months/whatever! We look forward to your FM efforts in future.
DarthMRN on 4/8/2006 at 11:30
The Precursor gods are a valid point, but we don't really know if they were real, or even separate from the Builder/Trickster. I'm basing my assumptions on this: Let's say that the christian devil suddenly began walking the Earth. Would this increase the possibility of the christian god being real? Most likely. Would it lead other faiths to be less credible? Highly possible. Why? Becuse it would be real. It would be the kind of tangible proof humans novadays need to believe.
The Hammer religion spoke of the Trickster, among other things. When he subsequently turns out to be real, that counts for a lot in terms of Hammerite credibility. That other religions mention other deitites can't really be equaled to the actual presence of the Trickster in-game.
Where exactly does it say that he belonged to a pathenon of old gods? I don't reacall anything of the sort.
Although, I will concede that having supernatural tricking ability could count as a godly power, I suppose. City of Villains anyone?
Do we know that the Maw was really Const's realm, though? We only ever hear Garrett say it, and he is the one calling him a god to begin with. It could just be an alternate dimension where his forest demons reside.
If he is a god, then the Maw is his Heaven, and the bugs and apes are his angels. Seriously?
Jarkko Ranta on 4/8/2006 at 12:20
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Do we know that the Maw was really Const's realm, though? We only ever hear Garrett say it, and he is the one calling him a god to begin with. It could just be an alternate dimension where his forest demons reside.
If he is a god, then the Maw is his Heaven, and the bugs and apes are his angels. Seriously?
I don't think that the Maw is his "ultimate realm", the one he is from. Again the movie before Down In the Bonehoard: The Trickster is chased away (probably into the Maw) and needs the Eye to bring forth His legions. If the Maw is his home reality it would be funny him to need an item to bring them to the place there already are.
Too complicated? Let's make it simple:
WHY AN EARTH WOULD TRICKSTER NEED EYE TO OPEN A PORTAL TO WHERE HE ALREADY IS!?!
No, he had a small portal, a connection, to his home reality (the one that needed to be shut down before taking down Con, with elemental vulnerability). If the Maw is His home than that guy is more stupid that we can even guess... (And would Hammerites have managed to bring Garrett into Trickster's home reality...)
SD on 4/8/2006 at 12:35
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If he is a god, then the Maw is his Heaven, and the bugs and apes are his angels. Seriously?
You people
really need to stop narrowly seeing "God" purely in Judeo-Christian terms. Gods existed long before Yahweh ever did, and few of them were invested with the kind of REAL ULTIMATE POWAR that "He" is alleged to wield.
Solabusca on 4/8/2006 at 15:40
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You people
really need to stop narrowly seeing "God" purely in Judeo-Christian terms. Gods existed long before Yahweh ever did, and few of them were invested with the kind of REAL ULTIMATE POWAR that "He" is alleged to wield.
Exactly my point.
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WHY AN EARTH WOULD TRICKSTER NEED EYE TO OPEN A PORTAL TO WHERE HE ALREADY IS!?!
Is that what you think the Eye was for? Jarkko, the Trickster wanted the Eye to completely rewrite reality on the City's world - to overpower all the other aspects of reality, the other god's wishes, and bring his Dark Project to fruition... knocking men back to the stone ages.
Goldmoon Dawn on 4/8/2006 at 19:19
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Although, I will concede that having supernatural tricking ability could count as a godly power, I suppose.
Unfortunately for The Trickster, for this game at least, it was also one of his *only* powers. :cheeky:
But it was enough. The Missions are really the heart of the story. The cutscenes can be so pleasing, especially for someone who has never played the game. They dont really deserve to see those movies yet. They havent earned it by playing the Missions that bring the story to a cohesive understanding, which itself is a bit daunting. Which is why people like Werewolf says the things they do.
I wish SolidAndShade would have come back. I've only had really one point about him saying that Constantine arrives at the Maw and "ascends" (becomes "one" with) from Avatarhood to Trickster. To walk the earth with true power.
After Constantine gets The Eye, he basically goes bye bye at that point, All gone. He most certainly cant be found in the Maw during the ritual. To me, that clearly alters known story. All of his ideas I thought were good, if he just made them fit the works.
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Rationale: the game's continued referenced to him as "Constantine" rather than "the Trickster" .
Recently I've been playing through 'ol Dark Project again with this in mind. At the moment I'm reminiscing in the Lost City. A wonderful piece of thieving. :ebil:
RavynousHunter on 9/8/2006 at 13:52
which brings up another interesting point. in TDP, you fight the Trickster, or Tricksy Avatar, or whatever, but in TMA, all you end up fighting is an obviously homosexual pedophile who may or may not have a moderate oedipus complex. why not fight the mortal embodiment of the Builder himself, like you did in TDP with the Woodsie Lord? i think that wouldve been one hell of a fight, the Trickster was a wily old bastard, but the Builder is fierce, powerful, and extremly intelligent, not to mention, possibly one of the mightiest warriors in existance. or have the Builder himself come to Garrett in TMA, basically telling him, "Karras is a dick, I dont like or support him, and you got my blessing to kick his ass." or even possibly doing a mission FOR him.
i think this might be the basis for a nice FM, dont you? :thumb:
ZylonBane on 9/8/2006 at 17:01
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why not fight the mortal embodiment of the Builder himself, like you did in TDP with the Woodsie Lord?
Because the theme of TMA was Garrett vs Technology, duh. What you suggest would have been what's politely known as a
rehash.
Goldmoon Dawn on 9/8/2006 at 17:50
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What you suggest would have been what's politely known as a
rehash.
Might and Magic did it for 8 titles, successfuly.
:p
RavynousHunter on 9/8/2006 at 19:18
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Because the theme of TMA was Garrett vs Technology, duh. What you suggest would have been what's politely known as a
rehash.
eeh, good point. i think maybe doing a
mission for the Builder would kinda fit into the storyline a bit, considering if the Hammers are right about the Builder, then He wouldnt like the Mechanists very much, and would see what Garrett's doing, hed think,
"Hmm.. These Mechanists are bastards, and this guy Garrett has some pretty good potential to kick thier asses. I think I'll pay him a visit and ask him do do a little somethin for me." 