Gambit on 10/9/2007 at 18:51
In every mission we gather enouth gold from elitist snob nobles that should be enouth for a poor thug to have a decent living.
But Garrett is always complaining about the renting... :D
So does he really manage to gather some significant income or everything goes to rent + equipment + bribing for maps ?
theBlackman on 10/9/2007 at 18:57
Quote Posted by Gambit
[...]everything goes to rent + equipment + bribing for maps ?
That's what the manual says. Everything is spent and does not carry over to a treasure trove or bank account.
Garrett is good. But he is a lousey money manager. :ebil:
Jarvis on 10/9/2007 at 20:03
I'm not totally convinced Garrett wants to be wealthy. He talks about retiring, but come on... what would he do with his money? Let's say he got his 100,000 gold from the trickster. How much do you expect an actual home would cost? A business? What trade would Garrett go into? At the most, a lump of wealth would allow Garrett to lay low for awhile but I doubt he'd be satisfied with a normal life. His money would quickly run out and he'd need income of some sort. We all know how Garrett generates income.
After all, "This proves it, going legit is more trouble than it's worth."
Thus we have the thieves' paradox. Why do people steal? To acquire wealth with out working for it. What can one do with wealth? Integrate yourself with society. Integration with society requires what? Steady income. Steady income requires what? Consistent effort and work.
Considering the cost of the tools and bribes necessary to maintain his career as a thief, he can't possibly afford anything more than a humble living unless he can get jobs for 10,000 and up on a fairly regular basis. Those jobs just don't come in.
So to enjoy the life of the wealthy, he would either have to go legit, or establish a guild of his own where his underlings bring him a cut of their profits. Then he'd have to start bribing officials and so on. It would make him vulnerable. He'd have to trust people for that to be possible.
I'm no expert, but I can't see any career or path that Garrett could take to make him happy and comfortable. Except buying a shack in the country with a reasonable lump of cash he saved over the years. Then he'd grow stagnant and bored with nothing to do.
Let's face it. Thievery is just too much fun.
Lovecraftian on 10/9/2007 at 20:15
I always wondered how Garrett carries all that loot in the first place.
nicked on 10/9/2007 at 20:58
His cloak has a bag of holding built into the lining.
Dussander on 10/9/2007 at 20:59
He has a hamster pouch
muteki13 on 11/9/2007 at 02:29
I get the impression that Garrett likes to steal. Sure he maintains that he withdrew from mainstream society because he can't stand the pretension and hypocrisy, but thieves are still a part of society. I think he likes it, especially when it comes at the expense of spoiled jerks who build their own throne rooms. :ebil:
SubJeff on 11/9/2007 at 03:24
Garrett doesn't sell stuff, he gives it to a fence who takes a cut. He gets missions through fences (I hope you all know what a fence is btw, and it's not something that your dad put up in the garden last summer).
So the fence takes a cut and remember that stealing something worth 1000 gold as the mission objective doesn't mean he gets 1000 gold, since the whole point of the stealing is for the mission provider to sell it at profit on the blackmarket.
It's thievery out of necessity. The tools are overheads and he probably gets little out of it at the end. Unless he spends on wine and women you'd still think he had a small amount put away somewhere though. I think a Thief 4 could be about Garrett going legit!
Shadak on 11/9/2007 at 04:11
Quote Posted by Jarvis
Steady income requires what? Consistent effort and work.
I think this is a mistake. Steady income can also from owning capital, such as owning a business (not running the business), owning a dairy farm, owning rental property, etc, all of which existed in medieval times.
If Garrett could score enough gold to purchase a small income producing asset, such as a small rental property that he hires someone else to manage, he could begin to accumulate a steady income that doesn't require consistent effort and work. Just being the owner doesn't take almost any time at all, so he'd be free to do some thievin' just for kicks.
But that's not Garrett's style I think :sly:
Lancer on 11/9/2007 at 05:46
Easy money like that. I really don/t consider it easy money, what Garret does is hard work and risky. Anyway, money like that is easy come, easy go.
One of the pool halls I frequent has a lot of drug dealers and stuff, and some of them typically carry thousands of dollars in their pocket on an everyday basis, but they still appear to be bums, and other than the must have ipods, cars, and bikes, they really have nothing to show for their money. No home, no real wealth.
No Garrett isn't rich, he barely makes a living with what he does, and he is always being hounded by his landlord. But he's doing what he wants, and has a certain sense of aloofness and freedom from society. Not really being part of it, but outside of it. Is it by choice? I don't know. I think he was born into it and doesn't know anything else. He was thieving when the Keeper's picked up on him if I remember the intro correctly.
Can he save enough to buy a business and go legit? Probably if he put a little aside each time. We don't know what percentage of the take he gets after fencing the goods. If it's anything like what a pawn shop would give you, you know it can't be much.
