Lancer on 11/9/2007 at 05:56
Sorry for the double post. I'm tapping into someone's weak wireless signal from my laptop at work, and got disconnected after I pressed submit.
Elentari on 11/9/2007 at 07:07
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Garrett doesn't sell stuff, he gives it to a fence who takes a cut. He gets missions through fences (I hope you all know what a fence is btw, and it's not something that your dad put up in the garden last summer).
So the fence takes a cut and remember that stealing something worth 1000 gold as the mission objective doesn't mean he gets 1000 gold, since the whole point of the stealing is for the mission provider to sell it at profit on the blackmarket.
It's thievery out of necessity. The tools are overheads and he probably gets little out of it at the end. Unless he spends on wine and women you'd still think he had a small amount put away somewhere though.
I have to agree with this. The fences WOULD take a cut. . .and probably a fairly large cut. Thats why they are fences in the first place. They are in it for their own profit. So they buy it off him at some...base price, and turn around and sell it to someone else for - I would guess, at least double what they paid Garrett for it. Thus earning back what they paid back and making a profit.
Then, as you say, there's the overhead for his own tools and equipment, PLUS his own rent, food and clothes. He steals a fair bit of food, but it does not seem to last long. lol And he does not steal any of the staples. (flour, salt, eggs) that even a poor household would have a small amount of. I don't imagine he eats fancily most of the time . . .but he obviously has a fairly decent diet or he'd be in bad shape.
Plus. . .I've gotten the impression that the City is not a 'cheap' place to live. With the nobles the way they are, and as corrupt as they are, and the times being what they are, I get the feeling that prices could very well have soared , so even the basics cost a fair bit. Hence making it hard for him to put anything by. Granted, there's no 'evidence' to back this supposition up. However, we know in TMA, the City is at war. . .prices nearly always soar in a war, the nobles are greedy, and many of the people seem to live in poverty or barely comfortable means. (comfortably poor?) Which is another indication, IMO that the economy is not doing that great. A thief is at the bottom of the pile so to speak, and does not have it easy, no matter how you look at it.
Mikael Grizzly on 11/9/2007 at 07:19
I believe Garrett has amassed a small fortune for himself, since he is not stupid. He plans ahead and knows he will eventually get old and wither. Which is when the cash will come in handy - get a decent place to live (even an apartment like the one he waited for Viktoria in after the Sword was taken) and simply don't care, as usual, with a blunderbuss under the bed to take against thieves.
Or take up the position of anti-thief security advisor, like Kevin Mitnick ;)
The reason I believe he has amassed a small fortune is that what we steal in the missions is already the adjusted value of the loot, with the fence's cut already deducted, seeing how all the worth we get in one mission acts as resources to get tools in the next. Similiar in Thief:Deadly Shadows.
Next, he engages in very lucrative jobs. The Horn of Quintus was worth at least 4000, since that was the cost of a set of lockpicks. Plus, the amount of loot he picks up and moves... each mission from the games comes across as between 2000 and 4000 gold pieces. P
The question is, how would Garrett allocate his wealth to keep it safe until he retires. Keepers? Banks? Rare gems (like the Mystic's Soul and Heart)? Antiques (Codex of Admonitions anyone?)?
DinkyDogg on 11/9/2007 at 07:25
There are 37 apples, 6 carrots, 22 cheeses, 8 cucumbers, 6 deer legs, and 25 loaves of bread in Thief II (added up from Azal's Guide to the Strange and Unusual.)
That oughta decrease the cost of living some.
nicked on 11/9/2007 at 07:35
you but when you can eat them all in under 30 seconds, it doesn't help! :joke:
Rogue Keeper on 11/9/2007 at 08:29
The games are decently silent about this but he does waste most of the money on alcohol and whores.
Mikael Grizzly on 11/9/2007 at 08:32
OH GOD NO!
You just gave me a mental image of Garrett the Master Pimp.
D:
jtr7 on 11/9/2007 at 10:39
After his humiliating experience with Basso's sister--who WAS grateful, but not THAT way--Garrett swore off women and most other people, but is known among the Keepers as a Pornographica Glyph addict.:tsktsk:
BrokenArts on 11/9/2007 at 12:01
Quote Posted by Dussander
He has a hamster pouch
I was thinking along those lines as well. Garrett hoards his wealth.
Rogue Keeper on 11/9/2007 at 13:07
Quote Posted by jtr7
After his humiliating experience with Basso's sister--who WAS grateful, but not THAT way--Garrett swore off women and most other people
As if he was a cheerful philantropist before. :laff:
