sh0ck3r on 28/10/2008 at 03:26
I know that this program is virtually permanent and this makes me hesitant to install BioShock or Dead Space.
After I uninstall a game, will SecuROM remain and clog up space or keep accessing info for EA or something?
EvaUnit02 on 28/10/2008 at 04:05
Quote Posted by sh0ck3r
I know that this program is virtually permanent and this makes me hesitant to install BioShock or Dead Space.
After I uninstall a game, will SecuROM remain and clog up space or keep accessing info for EA or something?
It's totally harmless. Registries entries and files in your Application Data will remain (taking up very little space), but you DO NOT want to delete these, since they're your active activations (for EA games at least, not applicable for Bioshock). DO NOT touch those until EA releases a revocation system.
raevol on 28/10/2008 at 04:53
Just get a pirated copy where they took that shit out. And if it sits poorly on your conscience you could buy it too, but not install that copy.
redrain85 on 28/10/2008 at 06:29
Quote Posted by raevol
Just get a pirated copy where they took that shit out. And if it sits poorly on your conscience you could buy it too, but not install that copy.
That's what I'm doing. There are pirated versions of Bioshock, Far Cry 2, Dead Space, and many others, all with the SecuROM garbage stripped out. I've been buying the games, but not bothering to install from my store bought copies. It's a ridiculous situation, but it's the only way I can think of to ease my conscience while still getting what I want. That is: full control over the games I bought. Unlimited installs, and no SecuROM.
As for whether SecuROM can harm your computer. Short answer: very unlikely. But that's not what annoys most people about it. Aside from the limited activations: it's just the thought that you've got this crap sitting in your registry and on the hard disk that's difficult to remove, and runs constantly in the background using just that little bit extra of memory and CPU time. Sure, it's almost negligible. But as things stand right now, it installs behind your back without your permission with most game titles. The customer isn't being given full disclosure about its presence. But I believe that's starting to change now, since the game companies are getting worried about being sued over it.
mothra on 28/10/2008 at 15:27
same here, bought FC2 which comes on a DVD-9, downloaded the stripped and BETTER compressed torrent of 3.8GB, installed it, no hassle.
won't play bioshock again so I don't care about my lost installation.
dead space is an even better crack: direct install from 3.8GB archives, almost like a portable app. for deinstallation you get a reg-entry-remover.
EvaUnit02 on 28/10/2008 at 15:29
Quote Posted by mothra
won't play bioshock again so I don't care about my lost installation.
Bioshock had its activation limit removed months ago.
mothra on 28/10/2008 at 15:31
I was talking about back then. you still need to activate online so it fails compared to older games that need no internet to work.
sh0ck3r on 28/10/2008 at 17:00
yeah, i hope EA gets sued. i know the companies have to make money, but secuROM is bullshit. so is steam.
Ulukai on 28/10/2008 at 17:31
It's so nice to have these topical, high-brow discussions once in a while.
Talgor on 28/10/2008 at 19:13
My way is much simpler: voting with the wallet. I'm not buying anything that calls home, has activation limits, any of that stuff. I don't have to call the publishing house in order to read a book, or the movie company in order to watch a film. If the publisher insists on treating me like a criminal, fine, keep your games. It's not like I don't have a dozen old games waiting for me to have time to play 'em...
