Pyrian on 10/3/2015 at 16:09
Quote Posted by Brethren
Nothing is more valuable than a human life.
Makes for a pithy saying, but has blatantly little to do with reality. Most people can hardly be arsed to spend time, effort, and/or money saving their
own life.
Le MAlin 76 on 10/3/2015 at 16:55
There are like nazi who stole the paints of jews and put its in swiss banks in hide places !
ZylonBane on 10/3/2015 at 17:25
Quote Posted by Brethren
Anyone who thinks a bunch of statues and structures are more important than actual human beings is just wacked in the head.
They're certainly more important than the lives of the jackasses who are running around destroying them.
Manwe on 10/3/2015 at 22:02
I wonder, how many cities and cultures (ancient or more recent, not to mention the insignificant cockroaches inhabiting them) has America obliterated in the last 15 years? What about in the last 100 years? I mean last time I checked, you guys pretty much razed Irak to the ground, and are doing the same with Afghanistan. Also I'm curious does the explosion of a nuclear bomb magically spare old buildings from destruction? I'm asking seeing as you guys are the obvious experts in the field. By the way, can someone remind me who funded, armed and trained these new terrorists in the first place? Who's funding them now? While we're at it, who funded, armed and trained the previous terrorists?
ZylonBane on 10/3/2015 at 22:14
Since you're clearly an idiot, I'm going to give you some homework: Go look up "collateral damage". Don't come back until you understand the difference between that and intentionally destroying non-military targets. Also note that the reason modern militaries invest so heavily in precision-guided munitions is to avoid collateral damage as much as possible.
Tony_Tarantula on 11/3/2015 at 00:58
Quote Posted by Manwe
I wonder, how many cities and cultures (ancient or more recent, not to mention the insignificant cockroaches inhabiting them) has America obliterated in the last 15 years? What about in the last 100 years? I mean last time I checked, you guys pretty much razed Irak to the ground, and are doing the same with Afghanistan. Also I'm curious does the explosion of a nuclear bomb magically spare old buildings from destruction? I'm asking seeing as you guys are the obvious experts in the field. By the way, can someone remind me who funded, armed and trained these new terrorists in the first place? Who's funding them now? While we're at it, who funded, armed and trained the previous terrorists?
Sure.....because America destroying some cultural relics 100 years ago totally justifies what ISIS is doing now. While we're at it I think we should re-institutionalize slavery in the rest of the World because it's not as bad as what America did.
As for who did that now, the answer has already been given to you earlier in the thread. Here's a hint for you: it's not just America. (
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/27/frsy-a27.html) It includes France and (
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html) a whole bevy of Middle Eastern states.
DiMarzio on 11/3/2015 at 09:17
Quote Posted by Brethren
I'm appalled that this is even a discussion. Anyone who thinks a bunch of statues and structures are more important than actual human beings is just wacked in the head.
Again, I think it's an interesting topic for discussion, but let's not flood this thread with it. Let us each have our own
opinions about it.
Quote:
Sure, the loss of the ruins is a tragedy, but guess what? We can always build some new shit.
Well, go on fetch me some 2000 years old Parthians. Come on, where are you hiding them?
gigagooga on 11/3/2015 at 10:16
But why destroy them? Wouldn't it be better idea to sell it all to western world or something... I'm sure there will be someone willing to pay for them.
No history destroyed and IS would get their "activities" funded. ...you know, just a strategic opinion about it.
Tony_Tarantula on 11/3/2015 at 15:35
To the above posters, I don't think it's destruction for the sake of destruction. Just as in Saudi Arabia there's two deliberate purposes for what they're doing. The first is the control of the knowledge. They deliberately want to make sure that nobody can study those old relics and consequently learn from them. A second is power: they want to scrub any symbolism or imagery other than those they directly control and further cement their ideas into tpehe minds of people living under their control. People are supposed to literally forget that any alternative ideas exist. It has been done everywhere in history by the ruling faction. The original Christian church scrubbed most over Pagan imagery out of society so that people wouldn't be reminded those old ideas existed, "heretic" factions did the same thing when they pushed the Roman church out, and more recently Atheistic factions did the same to the protestant icons in areas they controlled.
That's why what images are allowed to exist publicly is so important. ISIS and all other factions that try to do the same thing are literally attempting to "Vaporize" ideas they disagree with:
As described by George Orwell:
Quote Posted by George Orwell
Your name was removed from the registers, every record of everything you had ever done was wiped out, and your one-time existence was denied and then forgotten. You were abolished, annihilated: vaporized was the usual word.
