mgeorge on 16/8/2010 at 21:16
Quote Posted by dethtoll
I love how that's gotten to be an insult around here. "bawww you like bioshock your opinion is invalid!!! who wants to see my tattoo of mickey mouse blowing himself?"
Mr deth, you can be a real peckerhead sometimes, but by God you do say some really funny shit!
Eldron on 16/8/2010 at 21:16
Quote Posted by Assidragon
Yeah, but polish costs a lot, and the high budgets are one of the reasons the gaming industry is becoming a soulless pit where only the safest projects can succeed. :erg: I would rather have my gaming industry of cca 1998 back, please...
Well, it's not exactly the polish, but the scope of the projects, polish will usually be the first thing to not make the cut, since it's last on the schedule that eventually have to come to a stop.
But take a look at something like torchlight, it really has that super great polish that made it fun to play (funnily enough being made by the schaefers from blizzard north) but still was made quite fast on a smaller budget.
I think projects need to scale back a bit and put more budget into the polish stage.
catbarf on 16/8/2010 at 21:22
Part of the lack of polish is the drive to get the title out the door and make the publisher some cash. Many publishers don't seem willing to wait for what they see as wasted time.
Eldron on 16/8/2010 at 21:29
Quote Posted by catbarf
Part of the lack of polish is the drive to get the title out the door and make the publisher some cash. Many publishers don't seem willing to wait for what they see as wasted time.
Can't agree more, polish doesn't equal money for publishers, for them the game is done, and there is a market out there to buy it.
Assidragon on 16/8/2010 at 21:40
Quote Posted by Eldron
Well, it's not exactly the polish, but the scope of the projects, polish will usually be the first thing to not make the cut, since it's last on the schedule that eventually have to come to a stop.
But take a look at something like torchlight, it really has that super great polish that made it fun to play (funnily enough being made by the schaefers from blizzard north) but still was made quite fast on a smaller budget.
I think projects need to scale back a bit and put more budget into the polish stage.
To be fair, Torchlight was even more simple than Diablo 1 - it didn't have multiplayer, and it's still outrageously buggy (I accidentally made an item that gives me two trillion HP - whaaaaa; also enemies that instagib you if they ever hit, etc etc).
Eldron on 16/8/2010 at 21:43
Quote Posted by Assidragon
To be fair, Torchlight was even more simple than Diablo 1 - it didn't have multiplayer, and it's still outrageously buggy (I accidentally made an item that gives me two trillion HP - whaaaaa; also enemies that instagib you if they ever hit, etc etc).
I think they fixed most item related bugs post launch, but I dont know about more simple than diablo1.
What I was relating to, out of all diablo clones that has been out there, torchlight managed to tweak that small fun repeated part into something great.
Multiplayer wouldn't been nice (will be awesome in torchlight 2), but isn't part of the polish :P
june gloom on 16/8/2010 at 21:49
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
No, the insult part was the "head in the clouds" part.
That doesn't change what I said about the Mickey Mouse tattoo.
I really should give Torchlight a try. I've been meaning to because Diablo 1 I really, really enjoyed, amazingly enough. Which is at least part of why Diablo 2 broke my heart.
Sulphur on 16/8/2010 at 21:52
As long as you keep in mind that Torchlight is Diablo with a WoW aesthetic and is not at all creepy in the least, you're good to go.
Eldron on 16/8/2010 at 21:59
Quote Posted by Sulphur
As long as you keep in mind that Torchlight is Diablo with a WoW aesthetic and is not at all creepy in the least, you're good to go.
Yeah, whether the wow aesthetic is or is not your taste, this sentence is true, but as an artist I'll say it's well done art.
Gameplay is the key thing about torchlight though, it's really good.
june gloom on 16/8/2010 at 21:59
Not creepy? Well, that puts a dent in things (I don't care about "WoW gayness".)
