Koki on 16/5/2009 at 13:51
First was (
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54480) The Gamer Bill of Rights, which was mostly a lot of unrealistic demands and wishful thinking for a caring universe.
Then there was was (
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/09/29/rps-demands-10-things-all-pc-games-should-do/) RPS Demands: 10 Things All PC Games Should Do, which was ten servings of fat whine in crysauce.
But I just aborted(via Task Manager, no less, as I couldn't otherwise) Fallout 3 installation for trying to push Games for Windows down my throat, and I'm angry enough to make a list of my own.
Your retail game will install and work offline without any third party software in a Windows environment. That means no GfW, no .NET, Java or whatever the fuck else. I won't put useless bloat on my system just for you. I don't need it, I don't want it, and if you can't make the game work without it, quit software development and go pluck strawberries in Denmark.
Your copy protection system will not go up my ass to do what it's supposed to do. I hope culprits are obvious here. Want to call home during install? I can live with that. Want to get into Ring 1?
Get the fuck out.
While you're all bitching about piracy hurting your sales, how about you
Give the players a way to check out your game without buying it. Everyone kills themselves against customer care, car dealers will let you drive their car and if your diet pills won't work you get your money back, so how about that? Maybe if there was a way to
try out your product without stealing it people would
steal it less? If you can serve entire games through digital delivery platforms I'm sure you can host a fucking demo? If you're using pre-loading with online unlocking how does that fucking differ from a shareware?
Alnd finally, I wanted to point out that
PC is not a fucking console. When I play on PC, I play with mouse and keyboard, not a pad. I do not have a START button so I do not need a fucking splash screen. I navigate menus with my cursor, not with directional keys. I always need to map my keys and set up my mouse sensitivity. I also need a config file for fine tuning and in case you fucked something up. Provide this, or eat a bowl of dicks.
Bjossi on 16/5/2009 at 14:13
Amen to that. I was fucking pissed off to see that GTA 4 wanted me to not only install GfW Live but also Rockstar's social club. What is worse is that you need GfW installed to save; WHY?
What the fuck happened to giving people a choice? My brother didn't plan to play that unoptimized piece of shit online, so why the fuck does the game force those two bloated garbage piles down everyone's throat just to play at all?
MorbusG on 16/5/2009 at 14:21
The most "wtf?" moment for me in regards of third party software requirements was with Caesar IV which insisted on installing MySQL.
Ostriig on 16/5/2009 at 14:27
I approve of this thread's opening post, despite it not featuring new content, because:
a) it is full of truth and win;
b) it is made by Koki, and good times shall ensue.
Unfortunately, the third party crap isn't even restricted to games anymore. I have an HP printer downstairs, hooked up to the computer in the living room. Due to the fact that neither I nor my housemates could give a shit to install MS Word on said PC, I once found myself without a network and pressed for time to print a paper so I took my laptop down to the printer and proceeded to install the HP driver. Which took some 20 fucking minutes, mostly due to the installer automatically slapping an entire suite of software that I didn't give to shits about on my machine, and since I use this one for Uni work and like to keep it clean, I then spent another 10-15 minutes uninstalling the bullshit that HP shat on my shitting HDD without asking shit.
Bjossi on 16/5/2009 at 14:35
At least you can uninstall the bloat without breaking the driver. :erg:
steo on 16/5/2009 at 15:06
Quote Posted by Bjossi
Amen to that. I was fucking pissed off to see that GTA 4 wanted me to not only install GfW Live but also Rockstar's social club. What is worse is that you need GfW installed to save; WHY?
Damn fucking right. Fortunately some clever son of god has done a workaround. If you don't want to play GTA4 online, then for gods sake get (
http://www.gtaforums.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=537) xliveless which removes the need to have GfWL and Rockstar social club running (and you can uninstall both). While you're at it, get (
http://gtahq.multiplayernetwork.net/file/906/) this mod which removes the legal and logo screens which you're forced to watch every time you boot the game.
Also, never pre-order a game. Ever. For the above reasons, I'd have definitely pirated GTA4 if I'd known it would ship with all the shit that it did.
Jason Moyer on 16/5/2009 at 16:28
Quote Posted by Koki
But I just aborted(via Task Manager, no less, as I couldn't otherwise) Fallout 3 installation for trying to push Games for Windows down my throat, and I'm angry enough to make a list of my own.
That's a shame, because you don't actually need GFWL installed in order to play FO3.
Koki on 16/5/2009 at 16:36
So not only do I have to install third party software, the game doesn't even fucking need it in the first place. That's even worse.
EvaUnit02 on 16/5/2009 at 17:54
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
That's a shame, because you don't actually need GFWL installed in order to play FO3.
I'm pretty sure that it'll work fine with just FOSE.
