Martin Karne on 29/3/2011 at 05:38
Plutonium leaked outside the reactor, which means the most toxic substance on Earth is walking free outside the complex, "hey how are you, might I kill you with just one grain of myself?"
Azaran on 29/3/2011 at 09:13
Quote Posted by Martin Karne
Plutonium leaked outside the reactor, which means the most toxic substance on Earth is walking free outside the complex, "hey how are you, might I kill you with just one grain of myself?"
Interestingly enough, according to (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium#Toxicity) Wikipedia:
Quote:
no human is known to have died because of inhaling or ingesting plutonium, and many people have measurable amounts of plutonium in their bodies
Kolya on 29/3/2011 at 11:02
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
Oh,
genetic mutations! I thought you meant something else.
Your saving throw fails, because your post shows you were thinking of macro level body mutations instead of mutations on the genetic micro level. You based your attack on the article on this fact, remember?
Cleverly pointing out now that these are obviously related doesn't turn that around, when you just denied this very relation saying a 600% increase in genetic mutation "doesn't mean anything".
By the way, here is the (
http://www.ippnw.ch/content/pdf/Verschiedene_PDF/rs_genetische_folgen_chernobyl.pdf) study the article talked about. Turns out the phrase
unexpectedly high, that you lolled at
"because you know that's not a quote, it's a euphemism" is a direct quote from the study after all.
I had originally posted the article to disprove heywood's assertion that:
"For Chernobyl, the most scientifically authoritative study to date concluded that there were no reproductive or inherited effects."The study I posted shows that even low level radiation doses (below 50-200 (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGy) mGy) can double the number of de novo genetic mutations and did so at Chernobyl. In other words, it is exactly what heywood said didn't exist.
It as a sign of ignorance when the next thing is that you GBM try to arrogantly discredit said article. Then again, this seems to be the general pattern here, that every time I disprove one ignorant lie, the next clever dick springs up and says something similarly retarded.
Chade on 29/3/2011 at 11:39
No, his post showed ... almost exactly the opposite ...
GBM attacked the article for a misleading and hyperbolic title (mutations at 600% and rising!!). He suggested that the 600% was meant to convey the impression that the mutations had caused severe health problems, when in fact the content of the article reveals no observed short-term effects, and no currently known long-term health risks.
Kolya on 29/3/2011 at 11:50
I understand what he was trying to say, booh bad journalism, exaggeration, etc.
But it is no exaggeration, as "mutation" in the context of DNA analysis always means genetic mutation. It's just his assumption that the author tried to convey 600% increased body mutations here. You know what it's called when you attack your own false assumptions?
The best part is that he points out what's actually being meant by quoting the same article.
What's even the point of this attack then? That you possibly have to read more than the headline to know what's going on in a subject you're not familiar with? Well whoop-de-doo. This neither debunks the article, nor the study it correctly quotes, nor the context in which I posted it.
What's left is the accompanying arrogance with which GBM reveals his pointless banality.
Scots Taffer on 29/3/2011 at 12:44
I am a child of chernobyl
yes, i have three dicks
Kolya on 29/3/2011 at 13:32
You can have as many dicks as you like. We're very tolerant here.
Martin Karne on 29/3/2011 at 14:35
That's funny, do you remember Chernobyl do you?
One tunnel digger, you know the ones who made a cooling tunnel under the reactor molten core, drank from unprotected bottles and somehow one sand grain sized particle of Plutonium entered that bottle and he drank it, needless to say that dude died almost instantly.
Well you should know if you had watched Discovery channel's documentary special on Chernobyl.
