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eric on 21/10/2015 at 19:00

10/21

Hi folks,

I sure could use help with this...and I appreciate I am 11 years after the last posting; what can I say I'm (relatively) new to this.
So...here it is...the proverbial 'I've been everywhere, seen & read everything...and am stuck...' question:-

1. 2 hours into the mission, THINK I need to know where to go [back to Map one, with the initial entrance into the Bank] but can't accomplish it...the crux of my question...

DETAILS:

2. got the bank key...can't get back to the bank entrance on map 1: I've been all thru the Bank via this Map 2 entrance, but though my single bank key opens the outside door and one of 3 inside doors, it does not open the other two doors in the bank
2. No 'standard' lock keys to open any doors have ever been acquired
3. no weapons thus far [a mission 'goal' by the way) other than a single gas arrow-used
4. this far into the mission, there are basically 2 sets of maps...the opening area (with the bank, warehouse A)...and then once one jumps into the sewer to reach the next map-areas...one is in the are that has the barracks, the old fort, the church, another bank entrance, the statue with the burning crucifixion, and warehouse B...and in there a civilian who had the bank key
5. killed the civilian, got the bank key...and for frustration, in a very un-Thief like way killed everyone else (the humans that is, not that huge machine-like monster)
6. just south of the fort I can see a long hallway with a key in a very low down window (that I can't 'get to')...and also a view behind a chained door-fence that looks INTO the opening map, but one cant open said door to 'get back' there...at least I can't
7. can't enter the church, the (final?) gate past the fort are, the building In the fort are that has both a door and what SOUNDS like an elevator button if one pushes it from the outside

Thus my problem:-

Can't get back to map 1 (with the bank's 1st entrance)
Can't use the sewer entrance that got me to map 2 in the 1st place, as one had to 'jump' down into the sewer, and it is not (for me) amenable to 'mantling' back up

For that matter, I am not 100% certain one NEEDS to get back into map one with the initial bank...Little help?

thanks

eric

nickie on 22/10/2015 at 10:49

I've deleted your thread as 3 hours is far too short a time to expect a reply. If you haven't had a reply after a couple of days, you can bump a thread rather than start a new one.

As it is, the problems you're experiencing may be down to NewDark in which case it's possible you can't complete the mission. There is an ongoing list of missions that are problematic with NewDark and the thread for these is (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143759) here. The first post probably needs updating but I've not had the time lately to do it.

If it's just that you're stuck rather than it being an ND problem, you can find walkthroughs (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139559#Walkthroughs) here. Cavador's complete Karras' Diary walkthrough is (http://thief2fanwalks.zohosites.com/karras-diary.html) here.

If the walkthrough doesn't help then do post in the NewDark problem thread and someone may be able to look at it for you.

eric on 22/10/2015 at 12:17

Thank you
I will check out what you reference

For the future, because I remain unclear...
When one posts a fan mission 'need help' question...does one post HERE (general depository of Thief Fan Missions)...or in the specific thread for the Fan mission IF there is such a thread?
I know the latter seems intuitively correct, which is why I posted there 1st...but is that the place if postings are not in the last several years (like in this case?)

thank you

eric

eric on 22/10/2015 at 20:58

Quote Posted by eric

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update (10/22) 99% finished the level; I read in the 1st few sentences of the walkthrough what happened...I missed a crucial thing (door and key) in the (literally) 1st minute of the 1st map...once one goes to the 2nd map, there's no getting back.
So the game became unfinishable about 10 minutes into gameplay; there's no prompting one had committed a fatal error by dropping down into the sewer 2nd map; so I just didn't realize it and was running around for 2 hours for nothing....

arghhhh.
Oh well.

Its an alright level...having downloaded about a dozen thief fan missions, choosing only those that were on multiple folks' best of the best of the best, this one didn't reach those dizzyingly high heights.
But it was enjoyable, to a point.

Of course, like me, if one runs out of broadhead arrows at the very very end, one cant finish the level either...you can't shoot those 3 high switches behind the statues to get to the penultimate crucial door to open.

sigh.

I DO appreciate the advice though

best wises

eric

nickie on 22/10/2015 at 21:34

First of all, yes please - try and find the main thread for a mission before posting. Keeping questions in one place is much easier for everyone and thread necromancy doesn't apply to fan missions.

As for the mission, it's such a long time since I played it that I don't remember those features but I think that more recently, those kind of gameplay killers are found and corrected before a mission is released. Also mission release threads are more detailed in the blurb so if there is a point of no return, a warning is usually given.

Perhaps you'd like to turn your comments into a review for the (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=124349) General Review thread. :)

radogoal on 9/6/2019 at 09:01

i stuck in this fm

where can i find the diary? where can i find the key for the transformer room ?

fortuni on 9/6/2019 at 09:23

Transmutor room key
In warehouse A more specifically in Angus Paige's office on the top floor

Karras Diary
In the underground tunnel area more specifically in the 6 mask room in the NE area, to get into that room you need to find a secret in the office nearby