Renault on 4/11/2010 at 23:21
Quote Posted by henke
What's with all the negativity?
That's what's going to happen when a company tries to oversell something.
"I'ts going to change the face of gaming forever!"
No, it's the Wii, part 2. Fun, maybe, but revolutionary - no.
nicked on 5/11/2010 at 07:01
Quote Posted by henke
I was a bit harsh, sorry about that. I'm just irked by all the cynisism this thing is met with. Noone is forcing you to buy it, and it has the potential to be something really cool. What's with all the negativity?
I used up all my optimism when my Wii, a system with so much potential, (cooincidentally, for FPSs what with the pointing a crosshair at the screen dealie) degraded into shovelware and shoe-horned-in rubbish motion controls that add nothing to the experience.
Maybe I should get this new Goldeneye - I hear some raving.
I'd probably be less cynical about Kinect if Microsoft's whole marketing strategy didn't focus around "You thought your Wii was accessible enough to be played by any old 'tard - you ain't seen nothing yet!"
A brief mention of "hybrid" games that use Kinect and a controller is the only thing I've heard from them that might appeal to me as a gamer. Even then, until we see some actual games using that system, it could end up with just some shoe-horned in bollocks, like those lol-tastic early Wii adverts in which people pretended to pull pins from grenades with their teeth, except now you can actually do that!!1
Papy on 6/11/2010 at 00:03
Quote Posted by Brethren
Fun, maybe, but revolutionary - no.
I'm probably what you could call an elitist PC gamer bastard (let's be honest, console games are for retards who are too dumb to play with computer games), but I bought an X-Box//Kinect bundle today with Dance Central. Basically, I spent 394CDN$ for only one game. Maybe I'll buy other Kinect games, but I certainly don't intend to waste my money on a regular console game. It may be not be revolutionary for you, but it is for me.
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As for my first impression : The kinect works better than what I imagined. There is a lot of lag, but I adapted and forgot about it quite fast. It does require a lot of space though. I have to push furniture away to play.
About Dance Central, controls and feedbacks are far from perfect, but they are much, much better than Just Dance for the Wii. Having said that, I think the choreography are not as entertaining and the game certainly target a younger and more "serious" audience than Just Dance. I also don't like the freestyle with replay parts (although I'm sure it will be great for making people laugh during a party).
june gloom on 6/11/2010 at 00:45
Quote Posted by Papy
I'm probably what you could call an elitist PC gamer bastard
need confirmation y/n
Quote Posted by Papy
(let's be honest, console games are for retards who are too dumb to play with computer games)
oh okay
Renault on 6/11/2010 at 04:09
Quote Posted by Papy
It may be not be revolutionary for you, but it is for me.
By "revolutionary," I meant changing the entire gaming industry and the way games are created and designed. If you're having your own little personal awakening in your living room, well, that just doesn't count - no offense of course.
Papy on 6/11/2010 at 07:37
During your lifetime, the world saw several revolutions, but I'm guessing most of them didn't change anything for you. They were still revolution though.
The fact is Kinect, as well as the Wii and the PS3 Move, are having an impact on the industry and it will change how some games are created and designed. They certainly won't go away. How big the impact will be? It's hard to say, but considering the (
http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=21097) incredible success of the poorly designed Just Dance or the very limited Wii Fit, I think it's not that hard to imagine that classic console games are going to suffer a lot once developers learn to make good game with those devices.
Video games changed a lot since the 70s. A lot of genres died for no other reason that new customers made some old category too niche. If Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony can create interesting games for all the people who don't play video games right now, then the classic console games crowd could become a minority of gamers and become just another niche like the point and click adventure or the wargame crowd.
If you are a dinosaur who refuse to change his video gaming habit, that just doesn't count - no offense of course. ;)
nicked on 6/11/2010 at 08:22
Quote Posted by Papy
once developers learn to make good game with those devices.
The Wii's been out since 2006. This hasn't happened yet. I'm all for a revolution if it means better games, but so far I haven't played a single Wii game that's been improved for having motion controls.
CCCToad on 6/11/2010 at 14:57
Quote Posted by nicked
The Wii's been out since 2006. This hasn't happened yet. I'm all for a revolution if it means better games, but so far I haven't played a single Wii game that's been improved for having motion controls.
Agreed, but that includes some good concepts that were just limited by how much the wiimote sucks. For example, I'd love to see Red Steel 2 ported to move. Even motionplus wasn't precise enough to feel sharp, but move should be.
Papy on 6/11/2010 at 15:53
nicked : I don't think today's gameplay will "improve", but rather that new gameplays will emerge and become what is popular, slowly making traditional games and the traditional console demographic irrelevant. It happened in the past, so I don't see why it couldn't happen in the future. In fact, the success of games like Just Dance, Wii Fit and Wii Sport Resort, which are outselling most AAA games, makes me think this is happening right now. (BTW, I could also include Guitar Hero in the list of non-traditional games creating a new console demographic.)
CCCToad : I've always wondered if the Wiimote suckiness was due to bad design and physical limitations or because of an unwritten requirement to please the couch potato crowd.
Eldron on 7/11/2010 at 12:35
so we're finally getting full body 1: .......
2 seconds later
...1 motion control.
