AluminumHaste on 16/12/2013 at 16:11
Something is definitely different these days. Just tried playing Cragscleft, and I dropped a KOed AI in complete darkness and one of those spinning alarm eyes saw it and alarmed.
Patrolling AI are also seeing bodies in complete darkness, makes KOing almost impossible unless you have a closet to stash these bodies.
And it's not like they are walking into the unconscious bodies, they are seeing them from across the room. They don't see me in those shadows though.
Using TFixed install of Steam Thief Gold with Bentraxx texture pack mod. New Dark installed of course.
voodoo47 on 16/12/2013 at 16:40
maybe continued from an older save? try restarting the level.
AluminumHaste on 16/12/2013 at 16:42
Quote Posted by voodoo47
maybe continued from an older save? try restarting the level.
That
was a restart lol.
I had to restart because for some reason the Zombies were running amuck and had killed the 2 hammerites in the lower mines. The Zombies then proceeded to go up the stairs and kill more Hammerites and it got so bad that the entire level was on high alert and made the game unplayable. So I restarted and noticed the bodies being seen thing.
voodoo47 on 16/12/2013 at 17:20
tried on the TFix map, no such problem with AIs - dropped a guy in a completely dark corner, and the patrolling guard went right through him without noticing. however, the eyes indeed spot bodies, even when they are placed in complete darkness - can someone confirm what was the original behavior?
cattamer on 16/12/2013 at 19:58
I can't exactly say after which version of tfix, but now I can't blackjack the second patrolling AI without alerting the first one walking ten paces ahead.
They've become so sensitive that unless you snatch a body from the area or room, any AI there on alert never goes off alert -playing on expert.
Somehow the AI and alarm sensitivities did get higher.
voodoo47 on 16/12/2013 at 20:26
can you share a quicksave?
cattamer on 16/12/2013 at 21:10
Quote Posted by voodoo47
can you share a quicksave?
Not ATM, but as FM's are affected too, try the FM The Treasury by Bryan Matthews. I tried this last night and got frustrated and deleted the savegames too. If you play on expert you'll understand it.
After lowering the bridge at the start of the mission there are two patrolling guards. I also can't pick the tower door without alerting the guard upstairs.
voodoo47 on 16/12/2013 at 21:25
kind of busy at the moment, but lets make an experiment - get TFix 1.10 from the TFix topic, extract it with 7zip, and try to use the 1.10 gamesys (dark.gam) instead of the current one. see whether it makes things better (you will have to restart the mission).
cattamer on 16/12/2013 at 21:36
Quote Posted by voodoo47
kind of busy at the moment, but lets make an experiment - get TFix 1.10 from the TFix topic, extract it with 7zip, and try to use the 1.10 gamesys (dark.gam) instead of the current one. see whether it makes things better (you will have to restart the mission).
I was just thinking the same thing. Will the original dark.gam from the install cd do?
voodoo47 on 16/12/2013 at 22:34
worth a try.
