Gingerbread Man on 16/7/2011 at 00:05
He might have meant me. I've expressed the sentiment in the past. Like, seriously. Maybe even about this exact same lunch program (autocorrect wanted "lynch" lol) thing from a few dick-waves ago.
glslvrfan on 16/7/2011 at 01:17
Happy way late 4th. Spent the week in Gatlinburg with my daughter, my fiance, her 2 daughters, and her brother.
Shug on 16/7/2011 at 02:49
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
He might have meant me. I've expressed the sentiment in the past. Like, seriously. Maybe even about this exact same lunch program (autocorrect wanted "lynch" lol) thing from a few dick-waves ago.
I feel as though the school lunch example is a particularly poor one for advocating personal freedom.
If a nation as a whole has shown over a significant time period that they are incapable of making good food choices, has a tremendous rate of obesity and related poor health, and the bill is inevitably going to be footed by the country - what makes it so morally terrible that the country attempt to nip this significant social problem in the bud?
Muzman on 16/7/2011 at 04:00
Because FREEDOM! that's why.
Really it's also US public schools, which is a debate quagmire from hell. Could be a district thing, could be a state thing, could be a school thing. It might be an ok idea. Might be the principal is a crank planning on running for mayor. A good idea on the surface could just be handing it all over to an entrenched food company with half the council in its pocket and 6 years to serve on its ten year contract. Or it'll finally bring their position to light and give grounds to shifting them out for shoddy service.
One thing you can be sure of is arguing about it from a detached 'principles of liberty' position without all the other factors is guaranteed to be blowing hot air and you're no better than the press and politicians you profess to despise from your libertarian high tower. Hypothetically speaking.
CCCToad on 16/7/2011 at 04:21
Quote Posted by Shug
I feel as though the school lunch example is a particularly poor one for advocating personal freedom.
If a nation as a whole has shown over a significant time period that they are incapable of making good food choices, has a tremendous rate of obesity and related poor health, and the bill is inevitably going to be footed by the country - what makes it so morally terrible that the country attempt to nip this significant social problem in the bud?
Well, it really isn't a freedom example. The schools are legally entitled to do that. What bugs me is the underlying sentiment. It goes against everything that modern liberalism stands for, and is more reminiscent of the philosophies used to just monarchies in past centuries. Or more recently, to argue that the right to vote should be restricted to just white people or just to landowners.
I'll acknowledge that its a bit of a "slippery slope" argument, but what bugs me is the overall trend and not any specific incident. Another example is the forced internet monitoring in some countries, ie we "need" to filter the internet to stop people from inadvertently viewing child porn, yet somehow politically dissident websites always seem to make the blacklist as well.
PigLick on 16/7/2011 at 13:52
na ass wiochic is stil mae of ass ansfpoo
Gingerbread Man on 16/7/2011 at 14:22
We need a Like button
frozenman on 16/7/2011 at 18:24
I sick of liking shit, I want to high five again no one wants to high five anymore it's not that no one ever said hey I'm sick of high fiving I don't want to do it anymore, but the underlying sentiment is definitely there :(
CCCToad on 17/7/2011 at 06:36
In frozenman's case, the underlying cocaine usage is definitely there too.
