Latest Ubisoft DRM measure - all SP saves stored on a cloud server - by EvaUnit02
Phatose on 21/2/2010 at 18:18
It won't encourage piracy. It will simply provide yet another excuse for it.
Bluegrime on 21/2/2010 at 19:06
I'm not even caring about this anymore. In this day and age getting worried about this kind of thing will drive you nuts, there's just so much of it. How can I worry about Ubi not letting me save when iTunes rapes its way into my computer? Why would I let iTunes get under my skin when programs as simple as friggin' Blockland can forcibly download patches if I don't disconnect before starting them? Do any of those matter in a world with pifts.exe?
What Ubi is doing IS unacceptable. But if this is worrysome, then the rest of what is going down around the internet should have you staining your britches.
Zygoptera on 21/2/2010 at 22:26
Quote Posted by Phatose
It won't encourage piracy. It will simply provide yet another excuse for it.
Have to disagree. Perfectly law abiding (otherwise) folks who find their game doesn't work and or get pissed at having their game stall or die due to connection issues will look for ways around it and no doubt some will have an epiphany of "y'know I don't
have to pay for this treatment". It may not encourage piracy immediately but it will certainly expose more people to cracks and torrents as a means of "fixing problems", and from there it's only a short step to try before buy and other such justifications.
Phatose on 22/2/2010 at 00:25
You seriously think there are people out there who would turn to pirate crackers as 'fixes' for DRM that haven't already done so? That's highly optimistic, to say the least.
Andarthiel on 22/2/2010 at 01:02
Quote Posted by Zygoptera
Have to disagree. Perfectly law abiding (otherwise) folks who find their game doesn't work and or get pissed at having their game stall or die due to connection issues will look for ways around it and no doubt some will have an epiphany of "y'know I don't
have to pay for this treatment". It may not encourage piracy immediately but it will certainly expose more people to cracks and torrents as a means of "fixing problems", and from there it's only a short step to try before buy and other such justifications.
See Zygo knows what I mean. I would certainly do such a thing if the DRM killed my game(and I know most of my gaming friends would do the same).
Zygoptera on 22/2/2010 at 02:49
Quote Posted by Phatose
You seriously think there are people out there who would turn to pirate crackers as 'fixes' for DRM that haven't already done so? That's highly optimistic, to say the least.
I think most people are almost completely agnostic about DRM and will put up with just about anything,
so long as they don't notice it. For these people nocds/ cracks/ piracy are irrelevant. But this has far more likelihood of being noticed than just about any other DRM yet proposed as even people with otherwise sturdy internet connections get occasional disconnects and slow downs and they will get Ubisoft waving their metaphorical love tackle in their faces every time that happens.
I also think that the response once they find a DRM which does effect them will be a gigantic "fuck you". OK, some will shrug, some will hit their computers with large hammers, some will rage at Ubi support, some will try and return their game. And some will go to google, type in "assassins creed 2 no internet" "ubisoft suck" or go to a forum or whatever and get introduced to the wonderful world of third party solutions to first party problems.
june gloom on 22/2/2010 at 02:57
Quote Posted by Zygoptera
I also think that the response once they find a DRM which does effect them will be a gigantic "fuck you". OK, some will shrug, some will hit their computers with large hammers, some will rage at Ubi support, some will try and return their game. And some will go to google, type in "assassins creed 2 no internet" "ubisoft suck" or go to a forum or whatever and get introduced to the wonderful world of third party solutions to first party problems.
This, absolutely.
Jason Moyer on 22/2/2010 at 04:14
Quote Posted by Bjossi
DRM puts extra strain and/or even kills hardware.
I'm pretty sure the DRM that EA was using in 2008 put a lot less stress on my hardware than the stupid disk checks that they use now. Granted, maybe my wireless nic was having a coronary for the 10 seconds it took to authenticate each game the first time they were run, I dunno. I'm guessing it was less stressful on my PC than playing Russian roulette with the "insert the original gamedisc" message.
EvaUnit02 on 22/2/2010 at 11:31
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I'm pretty sure the DRM that EA was using in 2008 put a lot less stress on my hardware than the stupid disk checks that they use now. Granted, maybe my wireless nic was having a coronary for the 10 seconds it took to authenticate each game the first time they were run, I dunno. I'm guessing it was less stressful on my PC than playing Russian roulette with the "insert the original gamedisc" message.
Good god, you're always whining about disc checks. Just use no disc cracks already, I do so with my retail copies of Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 and everything's been hunky dory.
It should go without saying, but beforehand scan them with a decent antivirus checker like ESET NOD32, Avira or Kapersky and you should be fine.
