Latest Ubisoft DRM measure - all SP saves stored on a cloud server - by EvaUnit02
Briareos H on 2/3/2010 at 13:21
you guys need to stop thinking in terms of stupid analogies and rather in terms of how much it costs to run a development studio and how you as a consumer want to fund the continued development of games
It seems rather obvious to me that buying second hand has the same effect on developers as pirating - except that with second hand you're also feeling entitled to full and free support for the game you "own". It has the slight benefit of increasing visibility of a product for potential future sales in the same series, but so do torrents.
gunsmoke on 2/3/2010 at 13:27
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Requires a 2Mbps connection? FUCK, AC2 is going to be absolutely unplayable for me then. :mad:
What speed are you rolling with, EvaUnit? I JUST had the awesomest package in the world installed in my house last week. AT&T U-Verse. 300 channels, DVRs in each room, free wireless router, I can start a saved movie/show from one DVR and resume it in another room, and record 4 shows at once while watching a 5th (2 at a time with a 3rd watched for 1080p). I can program my DVR remotely from the internet or even my mobile phone! So if I forget to set it for a show, or someone tells me something is coming on while I am at work, I can just flip it on from anywhere. This shit is like from the damn future.
Also has phone service with unlimited long distance, and a 7 Megabit down/ 1 Megabit up connection. All this (and all of the HBOs) for $110 US/month! No more shitty cable bundle.
My question...I can sustain 1 Megabit upload (~ 128 kilobytes per second)...is THAT the speed they are referring to? The upload? Or is it the download that needs to be 1-2 Mbit? I CAN up the speed for ~$5 a month more, and that will raise me to 10 Megabit down/2 up, but if Ubi only needs the down to be 2Megabits, I'll pass.
EvaUnit02 on 2/3/2010 at 13:43
Quote Posted by gunsmoke
What speed are you rolling with, EvaUnit?
Well presuming that Ubi.com servers are in Paris.
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/734411196.pngWhat's more between on my plan I suffer intense traffic shaping between 8am-2am, that roots things even further.
Most of the time I'm lucky if I can get over 30Kb/s downloads from Steam. Thus it's really annoying when there's no pre-loads for games. Eg EA Store and D2D customers received pre-loads for Bad Company 2, but not Steam customers.
mothra on 2/3/2010 at 13:49
all your internets and super-duper-300-channel-net does not help you shit if your connection interrupts. then you can eat your fibre-channels cables while replaying the last level because you lost the checkpoint. Of course this only works if you can log back in after getting shafted. Nobody knows if THAT will work. the up/down speed is ludicrous, it certainly is unnecessary for a permanent onlinecheck unless they wanna upload the contens of your harddrive in the first few hours of installation (where you will play most likely in a long session). the technical specs for that to work are so ridiculous, UBI acutally cuts off 90% of their playerbase. I never ever had a full-on internet connection, not even at work at a telecommunications company and they should have the best speed and stability. I am sure it will be scaled down to check once in a while (with more retries and longer timeouts) but in the end it's just unimaginably stupid.
gunsmoke on 2/3/2010 at 13:56
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/734424361.pngI am currently running uTorrent, I don't know if that affects the speed or not, but I don't want to interrupt seeding this documentary. Pretty decent speeds for a Paris server with me using the internet and uTorrent.
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all your internets and super-duper-300-channel-net does not help you shit if your connection interrupts. then you can eat your fibre-channels cables while replaying the last level because you lost the checkpoint
Dude, I was just saying what I had and asking if it was sufficient. I certainly am not bragging. It actually isn't very fast for over here in Ohio. It is considered mid-speed. I can up it 2 more levels, peaking at 15 Megabits ($75 US for the internet alone, I am about $35 currently).I am still excited about my bundle and wanted to tell people that it is a great deal and I am very happy with it, in case some Americans are considering a new service.
mothra on 2/3/2010 at 14:05
especially filesharing opens up many, many different ip-connections which lead to lag, loss and choke, all things you would not want in a multiplayer game or when you have to connect to ubi.net to be allowed to play a game. so the DL-speed is not affected that much by 1 torrent but the stability and responsiveness IS. I wannt a job at UBI, they seem to hire anyone which should get me actually a high position, having experience and such.
but on the other hand it happened to me as well: some manager comes up with something technically totally stupid and unnecessary but it HAS to be done, only to prove him that he is wrong which he then uses to say: the idea is right, only the market/technological advancement is not ready yet.
PS: 300 channel comment was not directed at you or meant to make fun of or imply you are bragging, it was more universally aimed at anybody, me including. worded wrong I guess.
gunsmoke on 2/3/2010 at 14:29
Quote Posted by mothra
especially filesharing opens up many, many different ip-connections which lead to lag, loss and choke, all things you would not want in a multiplayer game or when you have to connect to ubi.net to be allowed to play a game. so the DL-speed is not affected that much by 1 torrent but the stability and responsiveness IS. I wannt a job at UBI, they seem to hire anyone which should get me actually a high position, having experience and such.
but on the other hand it happened to me as well: some manager comes up with something technically totally stupid and unnecessary but it HAS to be done, only to prove him that he is wrong which he then uses to say: the idea is right, only the market/technological advancement is not ready yet.
PS: 300 channel comment was not directed at you or meant to make fun of or imply you are bragging, it was more universally aimed at anybody, me including. worded wrong I guess.
Thanks for the info in the 1st paragraph, and thanks for clearing things up in the second one. :thumb:, bro.
Judith on 2/3/2010 at 16:51
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/734609411.pngStill, I'd like to know what kind of data they need to be transmitted at steady 2 mbps. Games like Battlefield 2, where you could play with 32 or even 64 other people never demanded more than 128-256 kbps, so such demands for a singleplayer game are ridiculous. Either the piece of code they use is a crap or I don't know.
lost_soul on 2/3/2010 at 18:21
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/734609411.pngStill, I'd like to know what kind of data they need to be transmitted at steady 2 mbps. Games like Battlefield 2, where you could play with 32 or even 64 other people never demanded more than 128-256 kbps, so such demands for a singleplayer game are ridiculous. Either the piece of code they use is a crap or I don't know.
You remind me of last night when I bought some music on Itunes. (I was given a gift card.) It downloads the song relatively quickly, and then sits there saying "processing file" for at least 2 minutes. What the hell is this thing doing behind my back? Are they secretly encoding a watermark throughout the whole file? Good thing we live in a society where I have to trust a company to do whatever they like behind my back. I am thankful for virtual machines that allow me to run the software without putting all of the unwanted baggage into my native Linux system.
For games, maybe virtual machines will soon be the answer. Then, you can enjoy "saving anywhere", like you always have as a PC gamer. Even if the console-ported PC game doesn't support saves anywhere, you can just save the state of the VM. VMs have some 3d acceleration support. I've gotten 2002 era games working in one.
Zygoptera on 2/3/2010 at 20:58
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http://www.speedtest.net/result/734919616.pngOMG I hva bettr intenrte sthan someone!!!!!!!<sup>1</sup> me>>>U
God only knows what happened to my ping though, last time I checked it was quicker to stick the photons in an envelope and mail them to the server.
<sup>1</sup>XT = awesome and reliable, haha ++ I can go through my entire monthly traffic quota in about an hour, but small victories...
