Let's settle this once and for all: it's Day-oose. - by Dario
D'Juhn Keep on 9/10/2004 at 12:34
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
Morpheus talks about Greek theatre?
No, my little bundle of joy, he talks about humans creating Gods out of machines, how they need something to worship and look up to. Hence, literally, God From The Machine.
Comprendez vous?
Cobaalt on 15/10/2004 at 12:54
Quote Posted by D'Juhn Keep
Comprendez vous?
Excuse me, but since we are in a "linguistic" thread, I had to interrupt.
"Comprendez vous?" is false while "Comprenez-vous?" is correct.
Anyway, Dario is right : deus is pronounced day-oose. (dé-ousse in french spelling).
rachel on 15/10/2004 at 13:42
hey I'm the French here, you're stealing my job! :grr:
D'Juhn Keep on 16/10/2004 at 13:37
Thanks for the correction. It's been over a year since my French A-level and a lot of it's gone down the plughole. ;)
Domarius on 17/10/2004 at 05:35
Quote Posted by Cobaalt
Excuse me, but since we are in a "linguistic" thread, I had to interrupt.
"Comprendez vous?" is false while "Comprenez-vous?" is correct.
Anyway, Dario is right : deus is pronounced day-oose. (dé-ousse in french spelling).
If you read the thread in detail, Dario wasn't right to begin with - someone corrected him, and he went back and edited his posts, and the thread title, so that it had the correct pronounciation.
Personally, I think editing your posts to change the tact of your argument, after its already been replied to, is rude. And confusing for people reading it after the edit.
jazzcat on 17/10/2004 at 06:19
If I recall correctly, I was once taught, many many years ago, that old Latin, as well as old Greek are dead languages, which means that the true way they are pronounced is forgotten, and the way it's been done is a matter of interpretation. Also, classical Latin does not know interpunction, nor capitals, not even a fixed word order, so its not Deus Ex, but deus ex, or ex deus and one is free to pronounce it anyway one likes.
Last thing: old Greek wasn't spoken, but sung (one thinks....), since the words come from the Greek language (as is stated above) maybe make a nice tune to it...?
Oh...and I think DEUCE is an old Rory Galagher album, ah well, I'm pretty sure........
Deiyen on 18/10/2004 at 00:38
Yes, classical Latin has no punctuation or capitalization, and word order is flexible, but as I was taught, our pronunciations of classical Latin are based on pretty good evidence that that was how it was actually spoken. Of course, we'll never be 100% sure, but I'd say at least about 80% sure. But yes, it would probably look something like DEUS EX or EX DEUS although the first seems better as it puts emphasis on DEUS.
Domarius on 18/10/2004 at 05:04
Well all I know is that the majority of the classical songs we sing in The Queensland (State) Choir here are written in Latin, and there are VERY specific rules about how each sylable is pronounced. All these classical songs are sung this way, in any part of the world as far as I know.
Why would it be open to interpretation when there is already some sort of standard?
Eshaktaar on 18/10/2004 at 21:46
In my CD case there's a description of the term Deus Ex along with a pronunciation key: Day-S-Eks Ma-She-Na. Now I don't know if this is the case in all the versions released, but if it is... RTFM!
And yes, editing the thread after people have commented on its initial content is indeed bad form.
Deiyen on 19/10/2004 at 08:57
Although even the manual pronunciation can be interpreted in different ways.
Day-S-Eks Ma-She-Na:
Is the "S" read or pronounced?
Is the "a" in "Ma" and "Na" short or is it like "uh"
Is the "e" in "She" long or short?
