massimilianogoi on 5/10/2009 at 00:28
"And there's more??"
"Yes!"
"Tell me!"
And then? I never understood this passage. What Artemus were speaking about?
Herr_Garrett on 5/10/2009 at 06:07
Prophecies.
massimilianogoi on 5/10/2009 at 13:26
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Prophecies.
Telling what?
PotatoGuy on 5/10/2009 at 13:51
Quote Posted by massimilianogoi
Telling what?
I think we don't exactly know. But what seems to be the case is that between TMA and TDS Garrett got a better relation with the Keepers again. I think he himself, after Karras' plan and Victoria's death, slightly became interested in the prophecies, and what would happen to him in the future.
massimilianogoi on 5/10/2009 at 18:29
That scene sounds like a prelude of what would have done Gamall in the future, but we all know that they are arrived to it/her after a long path. Maybe the Keepers were just going to know that there was a "bretheren and betrayer" between them. Maybe Gamall too didn't know who the prophecies pointed to, that's why it/she didn't reveal itself/herself straightaway.
Herr_Garrett on 5/10/2009 at 19:37
The point of prophecies is that you have no friggin' idea what they are about until they come to pass, after which point they are a tiny wee bit useless.
Prophecies generally don't go "Johnny Smith on the 25th on January, at 1700 hours is going to eat a salami-cheese sandwich with the rind off in a small shady pub in King Street 13, 7th district, Budapest, 1073".
I rather think Garrett and Artemus were referring to some "useful books".
Solabusca on 7/10/2009 at 09:42
Quote Posted by Herr_Garrett
The point of prophecies is that you have no friggin' idea what they are about until they come to pass, after which point they are a tiny wee bit useless.
Hence the need for interpreters.
.j.
jtr7 on 7/10/2009 at 23:48
The prophecies in Thief are not following the way they work/don't work in real life. The prophecies allow the Keepers to act before they pass, even if they feel like they are guessing, but they are educated guesses, honed after centuries. The Keepers positively manipulated Garrett and some of his contacts to save The City and keep the Balance. After they make their best guesses, they would nudge the weights in the pans, and watch to see if they guessed right. What happens after the prophecy comes true is that the full meaning becomes clear, but their work was not in vain at all. Of course, when it came to the events of TDS, Gamall stole the prophecies and journals, thus keeping the Keepers blind.
massimilianogoi on 8/10/2009 at 00:14
Hmmm.. and whay you can say me about the Artemus's "there's more"? I still can't understand about what he referred.
And you said that Gamall stole the journal.. Maybe it's it/her that strange keeper at the very beginning of TDS (maybe the first cutscene) who ripped out the page of the book, then hiding it?
Herr_Garrett on 8/10/2009 at 06:22
Quote Posted by massimilianogoi
Hmmm.. and whay you can say me about the Artemus's "there's more"? I still can't understand about what he referred.
And you said that Gamall stole the journal.. Maybe it's it/her that strange keeper at the very beginning of TDS (maybe the first cutscene) who ripped out the page of the book, then hiding it?
Artemus's 'there is more' was, I think, referring to more knowledge. Either prophecies or useful books.
It wasn't Gamall. That scene was to show how the Glyphs try to warn the Keepers. An ordinary Glyph transformed itself into a Glyph of warning. In the Keeper Compound there are snatches of conversations and books about the Glyphs acting strangely, even harming some of the Scribes. That particular scribe tore out the page because he/she deemed it to be a mistake. Perhaps s/he realised its meaning, but didn't dare to tell to the Elders (one of the scribes is complaining about being demoted, or something like that).
Although that is strange... Suppose that certain
sequences of Glyphs have special meanings? Otherwise, why not just scrape out the wrong Glyph(s) (like the Mediaeval scribes did)?
