jtr7 on 8/10/2009 at 06:39
Both T1/G and T2 have a Keeper telling Garrett there is more information he should know.
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Keeper: "Listen...there is a book that you were not made aware of. I'm here to tell you that it would be wise for you to read it now...if you can still read hieroglyphs."
Garrett: "I do try to forget, but you Keepers leave them everywhere for me."
Keeper: "Yes. You have more friends than you know."
Garrett: "Tell my 'friends' that I don't need their secret book. Or their Glyph warnings, or their messengers! Tell them I'm through! Tell them it's over! Tell them Garrett is done!"
Keeper: "I will tell them this: Nothing is changed. All is as it was written. The Trickster is dead. Beware the dawn...of the Metal Age."
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Garrett: "All of this? It was written?"
Keeper: "All."
Garrett: "Viktoria's death...and Karras...was it written? In your books?"
Keeper: "All is...as it was written."
Garrett: "And there's more?"
Keeper: "Yes."
Garrett: "Tell me."
And then he was granted access to the Keeper Compound and Library (Artemus helped him intentionally but indirectly, like a good Keeper, to gain access to the Forbidden Libraries), but Gamall manipulated Orland to only grant Garrett access by retrieving the Jacknall's Paw and the Builder's Chalice.
I frankly cannot see how it's possible to not understand this.
massimilianogoi on 8/10/2009 at 09:03
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And then he was granted access to the Keeper Compound and Library (Artemus helped him intentionally but indirectly, like a good Keeper, to gain access to the Forbidden Libraries), but Gamall manipulated Orland to only grant Garrett access by retrieving the Jacknall's Paw and the Builder's Chalice.
I frankly cannot see how it's possible to not understand this.
Because, irony, it's been so long from the last time I played TDS in its original missions, that I partially forgot this story. That two artefacts were then in the glyphs prediction that artemus spoke when he said "Yes!"?
And that Keeper that ripped the page, who could he be?
Herr_Garrett on 8/10/2009 at 17:24
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Because, irony, it's been so long from the last time I played TDS in its original missions, that I partially forgot this story. That two artefacts were then in the glyphs prediction that artemus spoke when he said "Yes!"?
And that Keeper that ripped the page, who could he be?
Jeeez, are you intentionally ignoring my posts? ...
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Originally posted by me, three posts ago:It wasn't Gamall. That scene was to show how the Glyphs try to warn the Keepers. An ordinary Glyph transformed itself into a Glyph of warning. In the Keeper Compound there are snatches of conversations and books about the Glyphs acting strangely, even harming some of the Scribes. That particular scribe tore out the page because he/she deemed it to be a mistake. Perhaps s/he realised its meaning, but didn't dare to tell to the Elders (one of the scribes is complaining about being demoted, or something like that).
To put it simply: it is a scribe, in the Scribarium. Gamall wasn't a scribe.
massimilianogoi on 8/10/2009 at 19:28
Ok sorry, I didn't read it :D Thanks. Now it's more clear.
jtr7 on 8/10/2009 at 22:39
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And that Keeper that ripped the page, who could he be?
Yeah, she's just a Scribe to illustrate the point that something's going wrong with the Glyphs.:)
Later on, there's a Keeper's idle mutter about a book with a page ripped out. Who knows how many pages have been torn from the books. It also illustrates imbalance, because the Keeper should've immediately reported it, even if she wouldn't have been believed at first.
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k2_idle6: An actual page...removed...torn out...! It hardly seems believable. Yet Elder Gravis hardly seemed surprised...like he already knew the Chronicles had been tampered with...
massimilianogoi on 9/10/2009 at 01:11
So it was Elder Gravis!! :eek:
Herr_Garrett on 9/10/2009 at 05:16
Once again, no. The guy in the intro is a scribe. An Elder is an Elder. The fact that an Elder knew about such things does not mean it was he who perpetrated them.
Goldmoon Dawn on 9/10/2009 at 05:25
I *was* gonna say it, but Herr_Garrett stole the exact words from my mouth. mass, dude, put the bowl down for a minute!
jtr7 on 9/10/2009 at 05:48
Elder doesn't mean old Keeper, but a high place in the hierarchy of authority.