Herr_Garrett on 21/4/2009 at 06:12
Quote Posted by massimilianogoi
That's it, Jason: this phrase explicated another theory different by your, that is the
turning the flesh into iron, but not erasing completely himself. If we concern that iron isn't meant here as rust, though.
Seriously, how can this be misunderstood?
Even if you think that for Karras 'iron' equaled 'perfection', perfection brought about by the Necrotic Mutox, you still come to the same result as Jason and me.
Anyway.
Solabusca on 21/4/2009 at 07:39
Quote Posted by Herr_Garrett
Seriously, how can this be misunderstood?
Even if you think that for Karras 'iron' equaled 'perfection', perfection brought about by the Necrotic Mutox, you still come to the same result as Jason and me.
Anyway.
Well, it's not really being misunderstood - just willfully ignored because massimilianogoi doesn't want it to be the answer. Happens a lot in threads like these.
.j.
jtr7 on 21/4/2009 at 08:22
Yes. :thumb:
I mean... Yes. :erg:
massimilianogoi on 21/4/2009 at 12:01
Quote Posted by jtr7
Almost any talk of rust in the game is always in reference to the Necrotic Mutox. Karras enjoys the metaphorical irony of flesh dissolving into something like rust. Apparently the highly oxidation-prone iron of the Thief Universe doesn't corrode as it does in real life. If ferric oxide is what the solid end product of the reaction is, then it's probably all the iron found in a human body (0.004 % of a person's total body weight, which for my fat ass is about 1 Lbs. or less than half a Kilogram of rust on the floor if I were dessicated by mutox).
So you weight 1 ton. Damn! You're big :laff:
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Also, thinking about it, the Metal Age prophecy doesn't sound like it's written from a robot's point of view, but of a person trapped in a metal hell. Why should soulless robot's lament? Rather, I believe, it's the point of view of someone with a soul, who was of flesh, but has been changed:
You think it could be a servant?
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Quote:
My hand is copper.
My brow is lead.
Suffer me in a red patina,
swept along in a molten flow
to a sad eternity.
My stride interrupted
my thoughts untimed
my tears are become drops of silver
and shattered the crystalline fern.
I plead the wind to sweep us away.
My alabastrine limbs, useless and tired,
my carnelian heart, beatless and mired.
I pick the gilded apple from the iron tree
I wipe the rust from my brow
The earth rejects me, foul and changed,
the wind refuses me, unsightly and maimed.
My voice is corrupted, my tongue unwind,
my pulse is mercurial sickened, it slows.
Destiny and danger are stil focused on The One,
the renegade who is both Brethen and Betrayer.
Beware the spider, for he weaves both labyrinth and lair.
My heart it ceases, my breath undrawn.
My eyes forever focused
on the sanguine metal dawn.
Beware the spider [KARRAS]...
Inline Image:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/TMA_cs05_01850.jpgIn facts, it's just me, or this silhouette, the one of the metal around the web, brings to mind the helmet of Karras, or one of his masks?
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For he WEAVES...both labyrinth and lair [SOULFORGE, where he plans to activate the Rust Gas from the Masked Servants in 30 strategically chosen mansions]:
kar1602E: "Still alive, Garrett? Thou scurries about like a mouse. And for what? Why not leave this place and try to destroy each of the Servants? Oh, but there are thirty mansions, too many to infiltrate in one night? You misspend your last hours of life. 'Tis equally dignified to laze in a field and await thy death, heh."
kar0609g: "(Truart speaking, continued:) You need subjects for your Servant project, and I can supply them. Vagabonds, street scum, prostitutes...those who will not be missed by anyone of consequence. They'll be rounded up, charges invented, et cetera. Still, there's always risk. So I will give you...twenty, no more. For your part, you'll remember to keep our transactions absolutely secret! And of course, deliver my payment--in advance, in full--tomorrow. I don't trust you, Karras, so you'll receive the subjects only after I confirm the payment."
There are 28 nobles' homes accounted for in all the texts and missions.
A VERY rough and overly-simplified illustration showing thirty circles of destruction conjoined at the center over the heart of the city or just north of it:
(
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/?action=view¤t=RustGasCoverage.gif)
Inline Image:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/th_RustGasCoverage.gifOf course, the circles would be of varying sizes and spread out even further North, East, and West.
I consider this foreshadowing:
Inline Image:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i106/jtr7/TMA_cs05_01887.jpgThe spider, dead, dessicated, and turned to dust in his own web as the camera lingers on it. The dusty innards are even propelled out of the body by the escape of gases, hissing, possibly to make the point further.
Beh, this could be the simple effect of a keeper's spell, anyway in these rows there are no explication of the will of Karras where he want inhale the rust gas. Sorry, but I'm starting to have a different point of view here. I hope different opinions will be well accepted. :D
massimilianogoi on 21/4/2009 at 12:02
Quote Posted by Solabusca
Well, it's not really being misunderstood - just willfully ignored because massimilianogoi doesn't want it to be the answer. Happens a lot in threads like these.
.j.
What meant ".j."?
massimilianogoi on 10/5/2009 at 19:38
Another thing, that avoid me for so many time:
WHY Father Karras was absent to the meeting at Angelwatch?
Maybe I've lost something...
Stath MIA on 10/5/2009 at 20:13
My best guess, he knew Garrett was coming and didn't want to BJ'd and hauled off for a visit with Viki like Cavador was.
massimilianogoi on 10/5/2009 at 20:17
Quote Posted by Stath MIA
My best guess, he knew Garrett was coming and didn't want to BJ'd and hauled off for a visit with Viki like Cavador was.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH LLOLL!! Really?? :laff:
Stath MIA on 10/5/2009 at 20:30
As good a reason as any, maybe he just wasn't quite ready to part with his eyes!:cheeky:
massimilianogoi on 10/5/2009 at 20:38
Quote Posted by Stath MIA
As good a reason as any, maybe he just wasn't quite ready to part with his eyes!:cheeky:
Hmmm... in other words? :weird:
