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faetal on 18/1/2014 at 13:28
Easily my favourite Derren Brown trick:
[video=youtube;YMropN6ft4Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMropN6ft4Y[/video]
SubJeff on 18/1/2014 at 15:45
faetal, did you see the explanation?
faetal on 18/1/2014 at 18:33
I'm guessing it's NLP-related, but if there's an in-depth explanation somewhere, link it up.
(I may have seen it and forgotten I have)
SubJeff on 18/1/2014 at 20:15
Yes it is. I can't find a video of it but why not try yourself? Watch it again and listen very carefully to what he says. He puts in loads of bike and bmx references whilst talking to Pegg.
faetal on 18/1/2014 at 20:57
Yeah, they were pretty obvious. It's a lot more than that though, the way he looks at and touches him and his whol body language is a big part of how he gets the message in.
demagogue on 19/1/2014 at 04:42
Quote Posted by faetal
I'm guessing it's NLP-related
My guess was also mentioned in the comments.
Billet exchange. He writes the jacket aaages before for another purpose, he actually does write Red BMX for the trick, the Jacket billet is then exchanged and goes in the envelope, then he signs. Brown has the BMX billet, so gets him the BMX.
Then cut to this where we have the suggestion mumbo jumbo (BMW & XBox) as a red herring, open box to reveal BMX as actually wished for, and exchanged jacket billet, then mumbo jumbo explanation to think he actually did write Jacket for the trick.
The explanation for the trick was the trick, I think, and the actual mechanic was a simple billet exchange.Edit: My reasoning is that suggestion only works sometimes and isn't failsafe, but my explanations works every time guaranteed.
Edit2: To be clear though, there's still NLP involved, just reverse from what you'd think. It's getting Pegg to believe he didn't write BMX. That was the very clever part of it, and the props and cues all helped sell the illusion.
Shug on 19/1/2014 at 13:51
That's an interesting possibility, actually.
Ultimately made-for-TV stuff is going to be recut to make it more difficult to ascertain method. In Blaine's original special that launched him, they were pretty loose when it came to re-editing angles and just outright using stooges in a couple of effects.
SubJeff on 19/1/2014 at 14:29
That is an interesting possibility, and pretty likely too.
