Level scaling OR Don't play RPGs then girlie man. - by SubJeff
gunsmoke on 9/1/2011 at 02:14
This thread is nullified by the fact that everyone knows to fucking wait to play Bethesda games until they are;
A: patched
B: modded
Your level-scaling issue had been fixed in a couple weeks in Oblivion.
steo on 9/1/2011 at 02:49
Exactly the reason that I've only just bought New Vegas. I seriously pity anyone who bought a Bethesda game on console.
june gloom on 9/1/2011 at 03:03
Like T-Smith? ;)
Phatose on 9/1/2011 at 03:17
As said, Oblivion's problem wasn't so much that level scaling is bad as it is that it was a Bethesda game. Frankly, their approach to designing game mechanics reeks of "Fuck it, the modders will fix it."
As for the mechanic itself - in addition to FO3 and NV, both KoTORs, both Mass Effects, Alpha Protocol and Jade Empire all used level scaling heavily, and no one minded it. It actually works out pretty well most of the time.
Hell, are there any other RPGs where level scaling was a fuck up on the level of Oblivion? The only other game I can think of that fucked it up that badly was Homeworld 2, and that's not even an RPG.
icemann on 9/1/2011 at 07:40
Pump some time into Final Fantasy Tactics. It fucked up that game too, as I mentioned earlier.
june gloom on 9/1/2011 at 07:48
Final Fantasy 8 was ruined by the levelling system. Well, it was ruined by a lot of things, but the levelling system was a big offender.
icemann on 9/1/2011 at 07:56
Was there scaling in that one? I remember random battles getting extremely hard towards the end of the game.
T-Smith on 9/1/2011 at 08:27
Quote Posted by icemann
Was there scaling in that one? I remember random battles getting extremely hard towards the end of the game.
It was the first FF game to have scaling. Most players didn't notice it too much though until later on in the game, mostly because they'd become adept at junctioning magic and were far beyond most creatures regardless of level.
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Like T-Smith? ;)
I'm not sure whether to feel honoured or insulted that I've become the TTLG poster boy for console-itis.
Though I suppose my constant whining didn't help things.
Koki on 9/1/2011 at 09:26
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Final Fantasy 8 was ruined by the levelling system.
No, and if there's any place for level scaling it would be a jRPG because then you don't need to grind for hours just to get over Boss X.
SubJeff on 9/1/2011 at 09:48
Quote Posted by gunsmoke
This thread is nullified by the fact that everyone knows to fucking wait to play Bethesda games until they are;
A: patched
B: modded
Your level-scaling issue had been fixed in a couple weeks in Oblivion.
ALL GAMES ARE BOUGHT ON PC ALL ALL ALL NO ONE EVER BUYS THEM FOR CONSOLES HUUURR
Err, I meant to say - I'd quite like to play some of this stuff on my PS3 too.
