Kuuso on 9/8/2011 at 12:56
This is because of police mistreatment (which happens surprisingly often even though blown out of proportion), unemployment, student cuts and all sorts of shit Cameron has managed to pull at his time on the chair.
This is unfocused rage towards the establishment, sparked by "injustice" (cant know how the shooting really went) and idiotic move by the police to go get that girl from the crowd. I wouldn't be surprised to see violence spread even more in UK in the coming months.
Matthew on 9/8/2011 at 13:31
Of course, there have been the usual riots in Belfast for months but they don't get reported any more.
PigLick on 9/8/2011 at 13:34
yeh, but you know, Ireland.:p
a better title perhaps would have been "Thats entertainment"
Yakoob on 9/8/2011 at 14:01
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I figure it's a bunch of unemployed youths with a lot of angst and disaffection in need of stitches and a night in hospital but surely we have a local Londoner left to describe it? Onion Bob maybe? At any rate it's time to try out the new taser nets.
And 10 years from now, those who are not in prison, will be talking about how they realized the futility and pointlessness of their actions and have, with an emotional "go humanity!" tear in their eye, overcome their own personal faults and ascended to be a functional, moral and ethical contributors of the society.
While in the meantime, their own kids are out on the street burning shit down.
And the cycle continues. Humanity, the clockwork.
Muzman on 9/8/2011 at 14:58
We're going to be hearing a lot about the role of 'social media' in this pretty soon. That's the difference between this and things past and why it's so amorphous in cause and purpose.
Rodney King is the obvious analogue. But that kinda grew from an obvious place. This is more immediate. I'm guessing that this has more in common with the Cronulla riots in Sydney, which was basically a viral text message that got people to show up in one place over a tense matter and things were just bound to kick off. Most of them were just there to see what might happen, until it did.
I can remember situations where people were sort of mad at the cops or whatever in a vague sort of way and thinking that if they were all in the same place something would have happened. But it wasn't a cause where you could pamphlet people into action with reason and organisation. Make people go to that much trouble and forethought over something minor or that doesn't really concern them they simmer down and stay home these days.
Now there's something more immediate and if you're a bit amped over something, or in general as youth often is, a notice or viral message to rock up somewhere for some action can turn into something.
We dunno yet, of course, what the core of it is. If any. Keep an eye out for dumb internet laws after this though, is my thinking.
Gingerbread Man on 9/8/2011 at 15:12
DARPA is already looking at how to weaponize social media. Which sounds hilarious, but not if you think about it for more than a few seconds.
Matthew on 9/8/2011 at 15:16
True, but then DARPA are the sort who would try to weaponise cream cheese.
CCCToad on 9/8/2011 at 16:07
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DARPA is already looking at how to weaponize social media. Which sounds hilarious, but not if you think about it for more than a few seconds.
And that information is literally years behind the curve. The government already HAS weaponized social media. NSA "backdoors" into both Facebook and Google services exist, and there's quite a bit of "false flag" propaganda that goes on with social media. And thats just open-source information.
Gingerbread Man on 9/8/2011 at 16:11
I'm sorry, I thought you were a quartermaster's assistant in Afghanistan or something. Didn't realize you had been keeping abreast of DARPA. I guess it is actually pretty easy to stay informed about things like that, especially if you are already in the field, as it were.
june gloom on 9/8/2011 at 16:59
Yeah CCCToad's full of shit. If he were actually knowledgeable about any of this shit he wouldn't be spewing it all over the forum.
