june gloom on 11/8/2011 at 05:28
I've been thinking about where there's jobs to be made, and I've come to the conclusion that our aging infrastructure needs some serious overhauls. There's a lot of noise being made about the decades-old Brent Spence Bridge, which is outdated, outmoded and dangerous if your car breaks down on it (as one poor fucker found out a few weeks back.) 3% of the nation's economy goes over that bridge, which is a pretty huge number. It really needs to be swapped out and replaced with something new. A project of that scale would create quite a few jobs that would last for quite a few years. Now imagine infrastructure updates of this sort all over the country.
The only problem is where the money comes from.
Starrfall on 11/8/2011 at 13:44
No, the real problem is that that's all New Dealy and the teabaggers will shit their pants at the idea and do all they can to prevent it from happening no matter how many jobs it might create. (Or maybe that's what you meant)
scarykitties on 11/8/2011 at 15:35
Quote Posted by CCCToad
Saying that the welfare state causes this seems a bit of a stretch to me. If anything, you'd think that never having "worked for anything" would make their natural tendency to just sit at home instead of get mad and on the streets.
I'm a little late but had to throw this in...
You've clearly never lived on an American Indian reservation or you would understand how the welfare state breeds discontents just perfectly.
Nicker on 11/8/2011 at 16:02
Quote Posted by Muzman
It's hardly representative though is it. A properly functioning welfare state will actually end up funding a few serial breeders and surfy bludgers living it up from time to time (intinerant surfies are less of a problem in the UK I imagine), though no politician or civil servant will ever admit this.
And it's not like the aristocracy has a lower percentage of such people, or worse. It's just there are fewer of them and they can generally cover their tracks.
"Did you hear about Reginald Nutbar the III and those murdered prostitutes?"
"No! What happened to him?"
"I think they stuck him in the House of Lords."
"The HOUSE! Good god!"
"I know... the poor blighter!."
"Hear hear!"
june gloom on 11/8/2011 at 17:36
holy shit scarykitties came back
jay pettitt on 11/8/2011 at 20:14
See, if you wanted to say that when you've got bigger problems then welfare payments can be an ineffectual sticking plaster then my sensibleometer may go off and my ears may prick up.
But if you want to blame the sticking plaster for the gaping wound beneath, then sadly my sensibleometer stays eerily quiet.
CCCToad on 11/8/2011 at 21:03
Quote Posted by scarykitties
I'm a little late but had to throw this in...
You've clearly never lived on an American Indian reservation or you would understand how the welfare state breeds discontents just perfectly.
I think spending a few years in rural Georgia showed the welfare state well enough. It was also a very diverse welfare state, with both bro's and white trash on the dole in about equal numbers.
scarykitties on 11/8/2011 at 21:16
Okay, but how does that demonstrate that welfare states are not self-depreciating?
The welfare state is only a part of the problem. Those who cheat financial assistance systems consist of a large chunk of the problem, I would guess, though. Poor government budgetting is another large part.
Tocky on 12/8/2011 at 04:05
Whatever happened to workfare? It sounds like a win win. You get actual labor for your money and those working get new skills and self respect.
Also I was glad to hear Cameron articulate something I had been thinking- where the hell are the parents of these hooligans? Drunk? Too fat to get off the couch? Out selling their bodies for heroin? Beside them telling them which are the good bits to grab?
Okay, he may not have said ALL of the above.
Renzatic on 12/8/2011 at 04:17
Quote Posted by CCCToad
I think spending a few years in rural Georgia showed the welfare state well enough. It was also a very diverse welfare state, with both bro's and white trash on the dole in about equal numbers.
There are no bro's in rural Georgia. Just black rednecks. As you should be well aware, redneckdom transcends racial boundaries in rural Georgia. I know this because I have, in fact, met quite a few Arabic rednecks, three Indian rednecks, and even a couple of Jewish rednecks.
I have no idea why this is. It seems that the farther you get away from any major interstate around here, the more you like Skoal, beat up trucks, and wrasslin.
