downwinder on 6/8/2021 at 03:49

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ok this is going to be the ice burg for looking glass universe for only 3 of there games=thief,deus ex and system shock

ok since we all know its with in the same universe and common sense says that thief was dated first,then deus ex then system shock

would be cool to see more cross overs in fan missions,like shodan vs garrett or garrett vs deus ex corpos,the environment change would be very refreshing and i think garrett with the skills he already posses he would be able to do some amazing things

i have played a small handful of missions where system shock textures were used and story line also added to match theme of mission,i loved them all a lot,usually with mechs

maybe one day there can be a contest to make a single thief 4 mission story line with shodan as final enemy with system shock and older deus ex assess could be used along with a crafted story to finally end the thief story line where garrett can finally retire or ??? i just feel not using system shock 1 and 2 assets along with the assets from deus ex would be loss

long live the "soda vending machine" in a fan mission ,healing fruit soda is amazing,also spice flavored soda ohh the possibilities

dewdrop could be the final part to complete the story line

hope everyone is having a good summer so far

Azaran on 7/8/2021 at 14:56

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I prefer Thief within its own universe, or any pre-modern setting. Not really into 'modern Thief' FM's

Goblin_Grease on 8/8/2021 at 23:24

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Don't really like the idea of placing Garrett in space - there are a few missions that take place in spaceships or other planets and Garrett with his primitive weapons always seems out of place.

Garrett vs the various goons of Deus ex ? Not fun.There is a mission called Batman (demo) that has enemies with guns and they are a chore to get by as they instantly kill you after seeing you , the only logical thing would be the whole mission to be almost forced ghost and most people hate ghosting.

The Thief sneaking system is very fun and robust but after playing hundreds of missions you can easily run circles around all AIs making the game almost trivial.What would be really awesome if someone could change the way AI reacts to the player, for example there is a mod for Deus ex called GMDX (imo this is what the game should have been ) that adds the Thief sneaking system (in game it's an upgrade to the eye implant that allows you to see how visible you are) and changes the way AI acts.The game has a useless item- the flare , does what you would think in the mod if an enemy sees you partially and gets level 1 alerted (just like in thief) they trow a flare where they think you are making sneaking past a lot of enemies in a lit area very fun.No idea if this can be done in Thief but a very alert guard AI that gets alerted from Garrett running on wood or stone and then pulls a torch and goes investigating or just chucks a flare at where the noise originated would give the game a new depth.

In the GMDX mod some enemies are wearing rebreathers making the immune to gasses , i think the only AI in Thief i've seen immune to gas arrows is in Kidnap T2.There needs to be more enemies immune to different gadgets (any enemy immune to flash bombs/mines would change so much).

Another idea that can be taken from the mod is making enemies with tiny hitboxes ,example - a very armored knight that can only be KO with a gas arrow shot at his face and killed only by shooting a broadhead in the slit of his helmet hitting any other part of the body would make a racket alerting him.

Recently play Equilibrium by Silent sleep ,why aren't more mission using guards that wield both a sword and bow and that can sneak around almost as good as Garrett?

I mean you can barely see the guy :

https://i.imgur.com/xNe3hMY.png

He is to the right near the far wall.




If you haven't already do a GMDX Thief style run of Deus Ex - baton and crossbow only