Loot lists and categories

FKenFord on 23/11/2018 at 01:34

Sorry if this sounds a bit whiny and/or trivial, but here goes.

I was playing the first part of "Breaking the Stone" (an awesome mission, BTW). I wrapped up everything except finding all the loot. So, I grabbed the loot list from the zip, and started finding the missing bits and pieces.

But now I find myself 43 short of the maximum 4089. I looked for a piece of loot worth 43 that I was missing. Seemingly, no luck. I looked for combinations of loot worth 43 (e.g. 14/14/15). Again, seemingly, no luck.

I looked at my on-screen loot readout and saw my sub-totals were Gold: 2077 Gems: 1022 Goods: 947. This loot list didn't specify categories, but I figured I should be able to categorize each item from the loot list myself and find what I'm missing -- or at least what category (or categories) the missing loot is. This is where it got interesting.

I'm not sure how to categorize each item from the loot list. Is a "tiara" Gold, Gems, or Goods? What is a "tiara with gem?" I ran into a similar issue with another mission, but was able to find the loot (which I was *positive* I'd picked up hours earlier... ha ha!). Thus, I could avoid dealing with this issue at that time. I spent a while in a spreadsheet trying to categorize items to add up to my sub-totals, with no luck. I guess it's possible the loot list *values* are off, but so far I have been unsuccessful categorizing items to match up with my category totals.

I don't usually look at the loot list till I'm done with everything else and can (relatively) leisurely find what I missed. This can be challenging to know what I missed. But for this mission, I swear I've double- (triple-? quadruple-?) checked each piece of loot from the list, and can't find what I'm missing.

The loot lists are usually (always?) very specific ("silver coin stack," "gold nugget," "dagger," etc) as to item. And I believe some loot lists have the category included as well. But this loot list doesn't have categories.

So, is there a consistent categorization of items to help people like me who are oh-so-close to finding all the loot, but just can't seem to find the last one or two pieces? Especially (only?) when the loot list doesn't specify the item categories? As a player, some categories are (should be?) obvious, right? Gold nugget? Gold. Gem? Gems. But what about a gold plate? Gold or Goods? Are serpentile torcs Gold? Is a "ring" Gold and a "diamond ring" Gems? And is such a specific loot list created by inspecting the mission in DromEd?

Perhaps this is a silly "meta-gaming" question. And perhaps I should just be happy with any loot list at all! But I stubbornly want to find the last bit of loot in this mission. So, if there's a standard for categorization of un-categorized loot list items, that might help me, and I'd love to know about it! Or, if it's totally random and up to the author, that'll do too. :D

I'll look for another few hours...

Thanks for listening. ;)

user3 on 23/11/2018 at 05:39

Quote:

And is such a specific loot list created by inspecting the mission in DromEd?

Yes, but it can be easier to use (http://www.thiefmissions.com/telliamed/#LazyTaffer) The Lazy Taffer(aka lootlist.exe download link page) which does a lot of the cross referencing for you. If needed you can load the dromed coordinates to see what the room looks like, maybe the little missing loot is hidden well or in an area you haven't been in.
-- sheesh, 43, I would just move on -- shrugs

FKenFord on 23/11/2018 at 05:51

Quote Posted by user3

I hear you. It is only 43. But this is my second (at least) time through this mission, and I am trying to be a completionist this time around. Plus, it's a fun map to bop around on. :p

What's bugging me is, I have the loot list, which adds up to 4089, and I'm sure that I found everything on it. Yeah, right -- obviously, I didn't. But, if I knew what category of loot every item was, I should be able to deduce/calculate from my current totals, and the categories' item values, what I may have missed.

Maybe it's just me, but this sort of problem is interesting to me. Plus, I learned even more about formulas in Google Sheets today, so it's been educational. :D

fortuni on 23/11/2018 at 07:12

I find generating a report in Dromed is a lot easier to use than the lazy taffer program, as you can also find keys, secrets, doors with the keys open and so much more.

To generate a report first load the mission then quit the game.
Open Dromed and in the toolbar at the top click on tools, then click on generate report.
A report configuration box will open.
On warning level choose 'dump everything'
On report types choose 'per obj' and 'all obj' only.
Then click on OK.

The report will appear in you Thief folder as default.rep

In the report, which can go on for many many pages, you'll find a lot of info, a lot of which can be deleted, but keys and doors are found at the top, loot is about half way down and secrets all the way at the bottom.

Here's the generated loot for Breaking the Stone

Code:

Loot Report
A Purse (423) at 118 31 -39 vals { 127; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (496) at 91 -245 -5 room Default Room vals { 64; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (736) at -71 148 -55 room Default Room vals { 37; 0; 0; [None]}
A Tiara (754) at 191 109 -53 room Default Room vals { 75; 89; 0; [None]}
A Coin (769) at -72 -23 10 room Default Room vals { 4; 0; 0; [None]}
A Coin (770) at -71 -24 10 room Default Room vals { 4; 0; 0; [None]}
A Coin (771) at -71 -23 10 room Default Room vals { 4; 0; 0; [None]}
A Coin (772) at -71 -24 10 room Default Room vals { 4; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverNugget (773) at -71 -23 10 room Default Room vals { 0; 48; 0; [None]}
A stat7 (861) at -89 -91 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 13; [None]}
A stat3 (862) at -89 -90 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 15; [None]}
A stat1 (864) at -89 -88 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 16; [None]}
A stat4 (1005) at -67 -57 -3 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 13; [None]}
A stat7 (1006) at -65 -57 -3 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 14; [None]}
A LC_Jar2 (1008) at -36 -98 -3 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 21; [None]}
A LC_Jar2 (1009) at 13 -105 -3 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 21; [None]}
A Purse (1102) at -90 -86 -18 room Default Room vals { 68; 0; 0; [None]}
Silver Nugget (1334) at 63 163 -103 room Default Room in A FootLocker (1332) vals { 34; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1352) at -13 68 1 room Default Room in A FootLocker (1351) vals { 89; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1357) at -16 56 27 room Default Room in A MoneyBox (1355) vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A LC_Jar1 (1367) at 122 145 -71 room Default Room in A FootLocker (1331) vals { 24; 36; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1374) at -16 -83 -36 room Default Room vals { 100; 0; 0; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1386) at -5 64 -23 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 27; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1387) at -6 63 -23 room Default Room vals { 36; 0; 0; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1438) at 132 -52 -34 room Default Room in A FootLocker (1436) vals { 67; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1443) at 114 -49 -51 room Default Room vals { 36; 47; 0; [None]}
A Tiara (1445) at 111 -148 -19 vals { 36; 23; 0; [None]}
A SilverNugget (1461) at 69 -43 -33 room Default Room vals { 43; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (1467) at 26 -95 -3 room Default Room in A SheriffsBowman (365) vals { 39; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (1468) at 82 -106 -29 room Default Room in A SheriffsBowman (1704) vals { 43; 0; 0; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1473) at 19 -12 -30 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1474) at 19 -11 -33 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A ScatteredCoins (1475) at 142 -44 -30 room Default Room vals { 36; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1480) at 134 -159 -25 room Default Room vals { 0; 53; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1481) at 133 -159 -25 room Default Room vals { 0; 53; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (1490) at 95 11 -33 room Default Room in A MoneyBox (1489) vals { 25; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1552) at 53 -4 -31 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1627) at 53 -4 -31 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1628) at 52 -4 -31 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1669) at 47 -48 -30 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (1670) at 47 -48 -30 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1672) at 97 -85 -45 room Default Room vals { 67; 0; 0; [None]}
A FineWine (1674) at 22 176 -54 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 36; [None]}
A FineWine (1675) at 21 177 -54 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 36; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1683) at 91 -87 -45 room Default Room vals { 43; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1736) at 190 -147 -75 room Default Room vals { 0; 137; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (1737) at 181 -136 -75 room Default Room vals { 0; 137; 0; [None]}
A SilverNugget (1748) at -92 -146 -24 room Default Room vals { 0; 48; 0; [None]}
A SilverNugget (1760) at -93 -145 -24 room Default Room vals { 0; 48; 0; [None]}
A LC_Jar3 (1764) at 50 -20 -32 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 20; [None]}
A LC_Jar1 (1768) at 49 -18 -32 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 20; [None]}
A LC_CanopicJar (1965) at -21 46 -29 room Default Room in A FootLocker (1964) vals { 0; 0; 38; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (2013) at 107 66 -18 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A SilverCoinStack (2014) at 107 66 -18 room Default Room vals { 12; 0; 0; [None]}
A GemRing (2027) at 100 66 -7 room Default Room in A MoneyBox (2018) vals { 87; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2081) at 165 -39 -52 room Default Room vals { 27; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2082) at 165 -39 -52 room Default Room vals { 27; 0; 0; [None]}
A LC_CanopicJar (2099) at 200 47 -57 room Default Room in A FootLocker (2098) vals { 0; 0; 47; [None]}
A MaskDemon (2102) at 91 7 -23 room Default Room in A FootLocker (245) vals { 0; 0; 46; [None]}
A Purse (2119) at -121 -11 -28 room Default Room vals { 39; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2181) at 20 24 -10 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2182) at 20 24 -10 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (2183) at 19 25 -10 room Default Room vals { 11; 0; 0; [None]}
A FineWine (2197) at 170 -20 -51 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 34; [None]}
A FineWine (2198) at 181 -20 -50 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 34; [None]}
A Purse (2206) at -1 -14 -29 room Default Room in A SheriffsSergeant (1609) vals { 46; 0; 0; [None]}
A MaskMonster (2210) at -11 -90 -52 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 37; [None]}
A MaskServant (2214) at -13 -90 -52 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 28; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2218) at 52 -20 -12 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2219) at 52 -19 -12 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A Purse (2227) at -83 -70 -23 room Default Room in A FootLocker (2226) vals { 36; 63; 0; [None]}
A SerpentileTorc (2232) at -109 -94 -25 room Default Room vals { 68; 13; 0; [None]}
A MaskInuit (2249) at -27 -72 -18 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 34; [None]}
A Purse (2258) at -79 -54 -21 room Default Room vals { 36; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2341) at 99 -203 -1 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2345) at 99 -203 -1 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldCoinStack (2346) at 99 -203 -1 room Default Room vals { 23; 0; 0; [None]}
A Gemstone (2367) at 99 -206 -2 room Default Room in A MoneyBox (1313) vals { 0; 64; 0; [None]}
A FineWine (2397) at 114 66 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 26; [None]}
A stat7 (2405) at -69 -97 -16 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 33; [None]}
A FineWine (2440) at 113 66 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 26; [None]}
A LC_Jar2 (2465) at 97 -6 -22 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 20; [None]}
A LC_Jar1 (2474) at 97 -8 -21 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 24; [None]}
A FineWine (2501) at -83 -67 -8 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 36; [None]}
A GoldNugget (2581) at 56 -41 -4 room Default Room vals { 67; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (2582) at 56 -40 -4 room Default Room vals { 67; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldNugget (2588) at 57 -40 -4 room Default Room vals { 67; 0; 0; [None]}
A GoldEyeglasses (2590) at 60 -42 -12 room Default Room vals { 21; 0; 0; [None]}
A spice (2592) at 66 35 -16 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 37; [None]}
A Purse (2616) at -23 33 -10 room Default Room vals { 69; 0; 0; [None]}
A LC_CanopicJar (2645) at -65 -28 -32 room Default Room in A FootLocker (2644) vals { 0; 0; 34; [None]}
A stat4 (2698) at -34 11 -6 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 14; [None]}
A stat7 (2699) at -36 10 -6 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 15; [None]}
A GemRing (2703) at 22 15 2 room Default Room vals { 33; 27; 0; [None]}
A LC_CanopicJar (2760) at -118 -89 -9 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 33; [None]}
A LC_CanopicJar (2761) at -107 -76 -9 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 33; [None]}
A stat1 (2822) at 160 -55 -37 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 15; [None]}
A stat4 (2823) at 159 -54 -37 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 15; [None]}
A Gemstone (2841) at 95 -154 -1 room Default Room vals { 0; 68; 0; [None]}
A Gemstone (2844) at 96 -153 -1 vals { 0; 68; 0; [None]}
A spice (2972) at 22 104 -19 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 18; [None]}
A spice (2973) at 21 105 -19 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 18; [None]}
Total loot: { 2120; 1022; 947; [None]} from 102 objects

To find a specific obj in Dromed eg. A Purse (423) at 118 31 -39 vals { 127; 0; 0; [None]}, type the obj no. into the command box, bottom right of Dromed in the following way:-

find_obj 423 (note the underscore)
then 'enter' then 'F8'

Dromed will take you straight to that obj.

As for your question about gold, gems, goods. Most loot items are only one of each ie. a gold stack or silver stack is only gold. The numbers in the last brackets define how the loot is made up, gold first, next gems, then goods.

Purses are usually only gold (but not always so in this mission as some purses also contains gems).
A Purse (423) at 118 31 -39 vals { 127; 0; 0; [None]}

Gold nuggets are gems.
A GoldNugget (1481) at 133 -159 -25 room Default Room vals { 0; 53; 0; [None]}

Spice is goods.
A spice (2973) at 21 105 -19 room Default Room vals { 0; 0; 18; [None]}

And some items are a mixture of either 2 or 3
A Tiara (754) at 191 109 -53 room Default Room vals { 75; 89; 0; [None]}

To find your missing loot you'll need to delete every item of loot you have found from the generated report, leaving a small number of items that are yet to be found. You can then use Dromed command box to find the remaining items via the find_obj command.

FKenFord on 23/11/2018 at 07:24

Wow, that list is awesome! Thanks. :cheeky:

Seeing the item's value can be split across categories explains my inability to get things to add up to my category values.

I have to admit, somewhat sheepishly, that I've never run Dromed. Maybe it's time...

Thanks again for the list. Now I can go back to my fun with Sheets formulas to try and figure this out. :D

FKenFord on 23/11/2018 at 07:44

Your list worked like a charm!

I immediately (from the category totals) saw I was only short in Gold. It then took me about 1 minute looking at the list to to deduce I had overlooked a gold nugget worth 43 Gold (2 in the pool worth 110 -- I assumed they were equal value, which was obviously incorrect). And now I am complete!

And now I also know how to attack this "problem" the next time I run into it.

Thanks again for humoring my obsessive behavior. :eek:

fortuni on 23/11/2018 at 07:54

And another happy Taffer! :D

Some missions are a nightmare to produce lootlists for as there is missing loot as well as various oddities due to author errors, Newdark bugs or even weird setups which can lead to frighteningly confusing reports/loot. So working out what is going on sometimes needs a fair bit of detective work.

If you choose to use Dromed reports on any other mission to find missing loot and need any help you are welcome to PM me.

FKenFord on 23/11/2018 at 08:01

That's a kind offer of help. Thanks again!

nickie on 23/11/2018 at 09:49

Good stuff, fortuni. I've added your instructions to Miscellaneous in the Links thread.

user3 on 23/11/2018 at 11:31

I agree the dromed method is best, but if not familiar the player may be overwhelmed with the printout info.

lootlist printout:

Code:

Loot:
A Purse (423) (gold: 127) {118.82,31.09,-39.82}
A Purse (496) (gold: 64) {91.93,-246.00,-5.53}
A Purse (736) (gold: 37) {-71.46,148.15,-55.89}
A Tiara (754) (gold: 75; gems: 89) {191.42,109.12,-53.94}
A Coin (769) (gold: 4) {-72.11,-23.96,10.26}
A Coin (770) (gold: 4) {-71.99,-24.26,10.26}
A Coin (771) (gold: 4) {-71.87,-23.79,10.26}
A Coin (772) (gold: 4) {-71.37,-24.15,10.26}
A SilverNugget (773) (gems: 48) {-71.13,-23.40,10.36}
A stat7 (861) (goods: 13) {-89.49,-91.51,-1.40}
A stat3 (862) (goods: 15) {-89.84,-90.46,-1.40}
A stat1 (864) (goods: 16) {-89.43,-88.80,-1.77}
A stat4 (1005) (goods: 13) {-67.43,-57.78,-3.80}
A stat7 (1006) (goods: 14) {-65.63,-57.80,-3.74}
A LC_Jar2 (1008) (goods: 21) {-36.28,-98.14,-3.01}
A LC_Jar2 (1009) (goods: 21) {13.30,-105.29,-3.01}
A Purse (1102) (gold: 68) {-90.98,-86.35,-18.00}
Silver Nugget (1334) (gold: 34) {63.60,163.24,-103.19}
Contained by: A FootLocker (1332) {63.59,163.33,-103.19}
A GoldNugget (1352) (gold: 89) {-14.16,68.43,1.76}
Contained by: A FootLocker (1351) {-13.87,68.48,1.76}
A SilverCoinStack (1357) (gold: 23) {-16.21,56.60,27.03}
Contained by: A MoneyBox (1355) {-16.43,56.68,27.03}
A LC_Jar1 (1367) (gold: 24; gems: 36) {123.07,145.40,-71.99}
Contained by: A FootLocker (1331) {122.74,145.59,-71.99}
A GoldNugget (1374) (gold: 100) {-16.26,-83.85,-36.53}
A ScatteredCoins (1386) (goods: 27) {-5.72,64.21,-23.32}
A ScatteredCoins (1387) (gold: 36) {-6.58,63.98,-23.32}
A ScatteredCoins (1438) (gold: 67) {132.65,-52.47,-34.79}
Contained by: A FootLocker (1436) {132.49,-52.08,-34.79}
A GoldNugget (1443) (gold: 36; gems: 47) {114.76,-49.25,-51.07}
A Tiara (1445) (gold: 36; gems: 23) {111.10,-148.28,-19.07}
A SilverNugget (1461) (gold: 43) {69.96,-43.22,-33.64}
A Purse (1467) (gold: 39) {26.46,-94.60,-3.63}
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (365) {26.03,-95.26,-3.63}
A Purse (1468) (gold: 43) {82.80,-105.81,-29.91}
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (1704) {82.37,-106.47,-29.91}
A ScatteredCoins (1473) (gold: 23) {19.82,-12.81,-30.19}
A ScatteredCoins (1474) (gold: 23) {19.24,-11.61,-33.10}
A ScatteredCoins (1475) (gold: 36) {142.72,-44.49,-30.61}
A GoldNugget (1480) (gems: 53) {134.25,-159.15,-25.69}
A GoldNugget (1481) (gems: 53) {133.80,-159.44,-25.69}
A GoldCoinStack (1490) (gold: 25) {95.91,11.61,-33.03}
Contained by: A MoneyBox (1489) {95.74,11.62,-33.03}
A SilverCoinStack (1552) (gold: 12) {53.40,-4.35,-31.29}
A SilverCoinStack (1627) (gold: 12) {53.11,-4.73,-31.29}
A SilverCoinStack (1628) (gold: 12) {52.96,-4.24,-31.29}
A SilverCoinStack (1669) (gold: 12) {47.82,-48.98,-30.80}
A SilverCoinStack (1670) (gold: 12) {47.32,-48.75,-30.80}
A GoldNugget (1672) (gold: 67) {97.44,-85.59,-45.54}
A FineWine (1674) (goods: 36) {22.19,176.47,-54.64}
A FineWine (1675) (goods: 36) {21.10,177.60,-54.64}
A GoldNugget (1683) (gold: 43) {91.89,-87.67,-45.54}
A GoldNugget (1736) (gems: 137) {190.48,-147.59,-75.36}
A GoldNugget (1737) (gems: 137) {181.67,-136.06,-75.36}
A SilverNugget (1748) (gems: 48) {-92.72,-146.68,-24.14}
A SilverNugget (1760) (gems: 48) {-93.58,-145.08,-24.14}
A LC_Jar3 (1764) (goods: 20) {50.19,-20.60,-32.39}
A LC_Jar1 (1768) (goods: 20) {49.54,-18.96,-32.39}
A LC_CanopicJar (1965) (goods: 38) {-21.12,46.93,-28.15}
Contained by: A FootLocker (1964) {-21.43,46.21,-29.12}
A SilverCoinStack (2013) (gold: 12) {107.50,66.10,-18.03}
A SilverCoinStack (2014) (gold: 12) {107.72,66.44,-18.03}
A GemRing (2027) (gold: 87) {100.96,66.83,-7.78}
Contained by: A MoneyBox (2018) {100.67,66.99,-7.78}
A GoldCoinStack (2081) (gold: 27) {165.23,-39.40,-52.78}
A GoldCoinStack (2082) (gold: 27) {165.48,-39.67,-52.78}
A LC_CanopicJar (2099) (goods: 47) {200.84,47.40,-57.69}
Contained by: A FootLocker (2098) {200.99,47.66,-57.69}
A MaskDemon (2102) (goods: 46) {92.34,7.11,-54.75}
Contained by: A FootLocker (245) {91.99,7.25,-23.49}
A Purse (2119) (gold: 39) {-121.19,-11.66,-28.66}
A GoldCoinStack (2181) (gold: 23) {20.56,24.54,-10.53}
A GoldCoinStack (2182) (gold: 23) {20.25,24.60,-10.53}
A Purse (2183) (gold: 11) {19.65,25.24,-10.71}
A FineWine (2197) (goods: 34) {170.67,-20.48,-51.51}
A FineWine (2198) (goods: 34) {181.14,-20.76,-50.36}
A Purse (2206) (gold: 46) {-1.89,-14.38,-29.37}
Contained by: A SheriffsSergeant (1609) {-1.15,-14.63,-29.37}
A MaskMonster (2210) (goods: 37) {-11.47,-90.66,-52.72}
A MaskServant (2214) (goods: 28) {-13.85,-90.79,-52.72}
A GoldCoinStack (2218) (gold: 23) {52.60,-20.03,-12.10}
A GoldCoinStack (2219) (gold: 23) {52.34,-19.78,-12.09}
A Purse (2227) (gold: 36; gems: 63) {-83.27,-70.85,-21.57}
Contained by: A FootLocker (2226) {-83.22,-70.79,-23.49}
A SerpentileTorc (2232) (gold: 68; gems: 13) {-109.51,-94.93,-25.22}
A MaskInuit (2249) (goods: 34) {-27.74,-72.54,-18.59}
A Purse (2258) (gold: 36) {-79.24,-54.27,-21.93}
A GoldCoinStack (2341) (gold: 23) {99.12,-203.64,-1.59}
A GoldCoinStack (2345) (gold: 23) {99.52,-203.83,-1.59}
A GoldCoinStack (2346) (gold: 23) {99.49,-203.05,-1.59}
A Gemstone (2367) (gems: 64) {99.12,-206.50,-2.92}
Contained by: A MoneyBox (1313) {99.23,-206.45,-2.92}
A FineWine (2397) (goods: 26) {114.44,66.23,-1.04}
A stat7 (2405) (goods: 33) {-69.62,-97.78,-16.58}
A FineWine (2440) (goods: 26) {113.57,66.22,-1.04}
A LC_Jar2 (2465) (goods: 20) {97.11,-6.34,-22.30}
A LC_Jar1 (2474) (goods: 24) {97.17,-8.61,-21.78}
A FineWine (2501) (goods: 36) {-83.11,-67.34,-8.56}
A GoldNugget (2581) (gold: 67) {56.96,-41.24,-4.90}
A GoldNugget (2582) (gold: 67) {56.70,-40.69,-4.90}
A GoldNugget (2588) (gold: 67) {57.28,-40.73,-4.90}
A GoldEyeglasses (2590) (gold: 21) {60.56,-42.70,-12.68}
A spice (2592) (goods: 37) {66.20,35.81,-16.41}
A Purse (2616) (gold: 69) {-23.34,33.22,-10.71}
A LC_CanopicJar (2645) (goods: 34) {-65.03,-28.45,-32.49}
Contained by: A FootLocker (2644) {-65.28,-28.33,-32.49}
A stat4 (2698) (goods: 14) {-34.14,11.25,-6.80}
A stat7 (2699) (goods: 15) {-36.04,10.99,-6.74}
A GemRing (2703) (gold: 33; gems: 27) {22.06,15.50,2.43}
A LC_CanopicJar (2760) (goods: 33) {-118.93,-89.34,-9.49}
A LC_CanopicJar (2761) (goods: 33) {-107.09,-76.27,-9.49}
A stat1 (2822) (goods: 15) {160.03,-55.73,-37.60}
A stat4 (2823) (goods: 15) {159.34,-54.06,-37.66}
A Gemstone (2841) (gems: 68) {95.69,-154.56,-1.69}
A Gemstone (2844) (gems: 68) {96.40,-153.88,-1.69}
A spice (2972) (goods: 18) {22.36,104.89,-19.90}
A spice (2973) (goods: 18) {21.43,105.11,-19.90}
Total loot:
Normal: 4089 (gold: 2120; gems: 1022; goods: 947)
Hard: 4089 (gold: 2120; gems: 1022; goods: 947)
Expert: 4089 (gold: 2120; gems: 1022; goods: 947)

Pick-pockets:
A QuivArrow (49)
Contained by: A bowman2 (2567) {90.84,-18.69,-22.05}
A QuivArrow (286)
Contained by: A BankBowman (285) {29.32,97.00,-10.39}
A QuivArrow (366)
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (365) {26.03,-95.26,-3.63}
A QuivArrow (395)
Contained by: A bow man (394) {-45.65,-61.91,-7.89}
A Purse (1467)
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (365) {26.03,-95.26,-3.63}
A QuivArrow (1705)
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (1704) {82.37,-106.47,-29.91}
A QuivArrow (2936)
Contained by: A bowman2 (2935) [Expert;Hard] {159.80,-12.76,-52.64}
Power Crystal (329)
Contained by: A SheriffsSergeant (188) {111.79,145.93,-70.42}
fire_crys (338)
Contained by: A sword guard (339) {107.93,178.50,-32.87}
A Purse (1468)
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (1704) {82.37,-106.47,-29.91}
A QuivArrow (1934)
Contained by: A SheriffsBowman (1933) {216.61,-39.51,-60.64}
A Purse (2206)
Contained by: A SheriffsSergeant (1609) {-1.15,-14.63,-29.37}

I keep a folder with lootlist; copy/paste the ???.mis and ???.gam files to it.
Run "lootlist {mission file nam}>loot.txt"
cleanup mis & gam for the next time I need a quick reveal. Dromed is for the most problematic cases where Im so lost I need the info overload.

Anyway, I Am a lazy cheater too as I seldom use either method these days :)