Lovecraft reference. - by AfroTaffer
Dario on 25/4/2008 at 07:10
Quote Posted by abdallah
It is really, really worth checking out the game (
http://www.callofcthulhu.com/) Call of Cthulhu: Dark corners of the earth. It's a fantastic game underneath the bugs...
Yes, this game would have been QUITE good, had the bugs and overall design flaws not been so pronounced. ...but I personally couldn't recommend it to anybody, because there is almost as much frustration in that game as gameplay itself.
elkston on 27/4/2008 at 05:56
Lovecraft was a racist, pure and simple. He thought people like me were less than human "savages", so excuse me if I choose not to celebrate his far-reaching influence.
There is a quest in
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion called "Shadows over Hackdirt" and I got sick of tired of every Lovecraft fan coming on the Bethesda board and reminding us that this was a LC reference OVER and OVER again.
Screw that racist!
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Race)
(
http://www.contrasoma.com/writing/lovecraft.html)
Solabusca on 27/4/2008 at 08:11
Quote Posted by elkston
Lovecraft was a racist, pure and simple. He thought people like me were less than human "savages", so excuse me if I choose not to celebrate his far-reaching influence.
There is a quest in
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion called "Shadows over Hackdirt" and I got sick of tired of every Lovecraft fan coming on the Bethesda board and reminding us that this was a LC reference OVER and OVER again.
Screw that racist!
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Race)
(
http://www.contrasoma.com/writing/lovecraft.html)
You are, of course, entitled to your view.
But the man, racist though he was, was also incredibly influential. Unfortunately, you cannot deny that.
.j.
Dario on 27/4/2008 at 22:55
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was also incredibly influential. Unfortunately, you cannot deny that.
Unless you're meaning to say *positively* influential (I wouldn't know anything about Lovecraft), being influential on its own is not necessarily a quality. Hitler was influential... Any
fool can be influential.
marshall banana on 27/4/2008 at 23:21
Quote Posted by Dario
Hitler was influential... Any
fool can be influential.
(
http://Hitler.JustGotOwned.com) Hitler just got owned!
AfroTaffer on 28/4/2008 at 01:03
Quote Posted by Solabusca
You are, of course, entitled to your view.
But the man, racist though he was, was also incredibly influential. Unfortunately, you cannot deny that.
.j.
And incredibly ugly too.
jtr7 on 28/4/2008 at 05:38
What about people from other countries?:cheeky:
abdallah on 29/4/2008 at 00:20
Quote Posted by Dario
Yes, this game would have been QUITE good, had the bugs and overall design flaws not been so pronounced. ...but I personally couldn't recommend it to anybody, because there is almost as much frustration in that game as gameplay itself.
The community made a patch that solves one game breaking bug, and since I never found the game to be unstable on any of the systems I've installed it on, I could go through the game perfectly fine with the patch installed :) It's a bit unpolished in places, but nothing too serious I think. It was a small studio and they had to close down shop not long after the release of CoC.
Quote Posted by spix's circlet
Eh, if I hear one more American say how great Lovecraft was (and particularly how much he inspires their writing :roll eyes here:) I am going to scream and collapse. He had some entertaining ideas and some nice writing. Nevertheless I am of the opinion that the greater part of his stories are repetitive, risible and one-dimensional. This is a personal observation; I have read little commentary otherwise.
Never been much of a fan of his writing either.
Solabusca on 29/4/2008 at 04:26
Quote Posted by spix's circlet
Eh, if I hear one more American say how great Lovecraft was (and particularly how much he inspires their writing :roll eyes here:) I am going to scream and collapse. He had some entertaining ideas and some nice writing. Nevertheless I am of the opinion that the greater part of his stories are repetitive, risible and one-dimensional. This is a personal observation; I have read little commentary otherwise.
Well, I wouldn't much say that he inspires MY writing, but then again, I'm not American.
He did, however, have a great deal of positive influence on the field, both through his written work and through his correspondence. That influence is still felt to this day.
That influence, by the by, touches on the games we so love in not only the very direct way that we are discussing in this thread, but in a more tangential form - one of Lovecraft's correspondents, and part of the circle of friends that added to the Mythos overall, was a young man named Fritz Leiber. In 1939 Leiber started writing about a pair of thieves, and the city that they lived in.
That city, I would suggest, is one of the primary inspirations for Garret's City. A teeming metropolis of humanity, filled with nobles, merchants, taverns and thieves, including the first literary incarnation of the stereotypical fantasy Thieves' Guild.
Something to think on...
Quote Posted by abdallah
Never been much of a fan of his writing either.
For me, it depends on the work. Some of it is stunning, some of it is mediocre. Let's not forget that his works were written for the pulps, and that Lovecraft was influenced by a number of Victorian sources.
A favourite quote is the opening line of
The Festival:
"I was far from home, and the spell of the eastern sea was upon me."
.j.
jtr7 on 29/4/2008 at 04:31
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