Poseur on 10/6/2004 at 09:13
I haven't posted on these forums for over a year or two, I've been too involved in Thievery, and our forums have moved outside of ttlg.com :) Anyways, I'm a big fan of the ghosting play style. I was just wondering your guys's/girl's attitude towards ghosting on this new update to Thief! For anybody who doesn't know, ghosting involves no killing or blackjacking any guards whatsoever, and that also means no saving at all. Of course, once you've finished a map, you can save and go to bed. However, Lytha style means, you get 100% of the loot, all the special items, and no killing/blackjacking at all, and no saving, plus, the most you can alert a guard is "did I see something?". Has anybody done it yet or attempted to! :cheeky:
BTW, if anyone's interested, this is Anarchtica from Thievery, Poseur is my old TTLG.com forum user name
tantoedge on 10/6/2004 at 09:23
Yes... as far as the stealth goes.
Don't have 100% Loot on all missions yet.
Brodieman on 10/6/2004 at 10:11
Done it on the first mission flawlessly in about 30 minutes. Almost achieved the same in St Edgars Cathedral but had a guard enter search mode and again almost flawlessly in The Cradle [SPOILER]except i required a noise maker to make the staff move away from the window at the end[/SPOILER]
goldwolf on 10/6/2004 at 13:53
Possible Spoilers
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Ive done it this way on the first mission, the Hammer Catherdral, Sunken Citadel and the Seaside Mansion. Thats as far as I`ve gotten so far. As for the pagan level, I had done everything until I got to the Jacknalls paw and killed the pagan to get it. Is there another way of getting the Jacknalls Paw without killing?? I gave up thinking of another way....
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Poorman on 10/6/2004 at 14:01
[SPOILER]Quote: Ive done it this way on the first mission, the Hammer Catherdral, Sunken Citadel and the Seaside Mansion. Thats as far as I`ve gotten so far. As for the pagan level, I had done everything until I got to the Jacknalls paw and killed the pagan to get it. Is there another way of getting the Jacknalls Paw without killing?? I gave up thinking of another way....[/SPOILER]
[SPOILER]Yes, there's at least one (already) dead Pagan in the map.[/SPOILER]
As for the 100% loot, there's been a couple of missions where I couldn't find it all, even with the glint.
Dr.Haggard on 10/6/2004 at 17:13
I've always felt that I should avoid blackjacking, and especially killing, wherever possible in Thief games. For some reason I feel that even more so in T3.
As for not being seen, I do try my best to get in and out of places without ever having raised the suspicion of a single guard, but I think playing without saving (well, loading) is more important for getting the full experience, so if I do alert someone I go with it and see it through, and just do my best to avoid actually being caught.
This gives me a more real and gripping experience than if I were to restart or load a save every time something doesn't go to plan.
The loot thing has never bothered me much, I'm pretty exhaustive in searching for it, but if I've found the amount required by the time I've completed my main objectives and been everywhere, then I rarely bother to backtrack and hunt for the last few pieces.
goldwolf on 10/6/2004 at 17:26
I find when I`m ghosting a level, I feel a lot more powerful, having the knowledge that all these guards etc are at my whim to destroy and are oblivious to the possible danger they are in. :sly:
Hunterzyph on 10/6/2004 at 18:44
There should indeed be some incentive for not blackjacking every single person...because that's what I find myself doing. I'd rather blackjack them then have them stand in the way of finding all of the loot.
east on 10/6/2004 at 18:46
This is all moot until the difficulty bug is fixed.
Jomero on 10/6/2004 at 19:05
I don't consider Lytha style to be "ghosting." Lytha always was more heavily focused on the "no damage dealt" than "times caught." She got into some really funky situations to go out of her way not to deal damage (like standing on a table in Life of the Party and having a guard yelling at her feet for minutes on end until he just gave up). That's not my style. I'd rather never ever be seen, caught, or even heard.
So, I consider "ghosting" to be to never be caught. But there are many shades of ghosting. The most hardcore of course is to never save, like you mentioned. Preferrably I'd never want to alert the AI at all, however small. But that's a bit tough. My personal style of ghosting is "try not to blackjack anyone, but if I have to resort to it I will... I don't snuff every torch I see, but I'll do a couple here and there, etc etc etc."
