Mapping out The City.

Beleg Cúthalion on 4/1/2009 at 18:24

I don't know about syllabication in English but for scholars different writings of words appear to be the pretty things while doing work. Makes it look more organic.

intruder on 4/1/2009 at 18:26

Ok, thanks for the reply. So the Hightowne article could be a redirect to the High Towne article. Good.

What about these locations:

Opera House, Ramirez' Mansion, Farkus' Shop (taken from page 1 of this thread)

Is it correct that they all are situated within High Towne (I don't possess TG, so I don't know about the Opera House and the wiki says it's inside Old Quarter)?

jtr7 on 4/1/2009 at 19:07

Of those, only Ramirez's place is in High Towne, according to the maps.

Farkus Functionals is in New Market, according to the maps.

The Opera House is possibly located in Old Quarter, according to M7MAPRM.str from Gold, and DromEd evidence:
[INDENT]"The Water Talisman has been hidden in a shrine located in the caverns below the old quarter of the city."[/INDENT]
...Unless the wall behind the Opera House is a wall separating city sections, and not just part of the gated wall surrounding the whole thing, but it's unguarded, narrow, and the portcullis isn't very substantial. The shrine is behind the Opera House, not under it, below only in elevation, and past that wall.

Sxerks on 4/1/2009 at 19:33

If you look at the (http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Keeper_map_tg.jpg) Keeper Map it also shows the shrine in the Old Quater.

Which would place the Opera House in "Down Towne" farther south than the hammer temple. But then "Downtowne" would 'probably' be a district of the Old Quarter anyway.

"Hightowne" looks like it was broke up into 2 words on the keeper map because of space, but then all the markers on that map are broken into 2 words.

jtr7 on 4/1/2009 at 20:16

Agreed. And going with the idea that there are four general quarters, with sub-quarters, sometimes sharing the greater quarters' names, it's a decent way to reconcile the data.

Just to have it here:
(http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Image:TG_M5_map_PAGE001.jpg)

It's "New Market" on the maps, but "Newmarket" in the M5dossier.str; "Hightowne" on the HD map, but "High Towne" on the Talisman map; "Down Towne" on both maps, and both times it was needless to break one word into two, except for style.

Sxerks on 4/1/2009 at 22:21

On that TG_M5 map it looks like DownTowne is split for space reasons, too bad everything is in CAPS on the maps.

But in a real world historical perspective on (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town) wikipedia :
" Camden Town and Somers Town are districts of London, as New Town is a district of Edinburgh - actually the Georgian centre."

and a search on google for "towne district" with the quotes comes up with a lot of 'olde towne' refs.

So the split spelling is probably the way to go.

PS. this thread is now about spelling and grammar

jtr7 on 4/1/2009 at 22:39

:cheeky:

Well, we've got time to kill while we await word from the mappers. Yeah, like I said, I think the splitting on the maps is unnecessary, as font-size and repositioning were completely doable when they were made, especially the HD map, the whole sketch could've been scooted over to the left over the parchment. I could see the words getting combined over time, too. With the Talisman map being at least 50 years older than Garrett's sketch (if he even sketched it, and the Talisman map could've been a general map that they later added icons to before they evacuated). Whee!

Hey, maybe the lower-case "old quarter" in M7MAPRM is a clue that it's the lesser quarter, not the greater! :idea: That would still align with our theories, especially since other words are capitalised!

Kidding kidding...

MorbusG on 8/1/2009 at 11:02

My math is a little rusty and I could use a little help; if 7550x5600 pixels is 1198x889 ft, how many feet is 1954x1102 pixels?

intruder on 8/1/2009 at 11:58

You only need to compute the ratio between ft and px like this:

7550px / 1198ft ~ 6.302
5600px / 889ft ~ 6.299

Now you devide your resolution through this ration:

1954px / 6.3 ~ 310ft
1102px / 6.3 ~ 175ft

Depending on your targeted accuracy, you'll need to use a more correct ration and not the rounded one.

MorbusG on 8/1/2009 at 12:00

Nice, thanks :)