Mission by Type thread is being updated.... Your feedback would be appreciated

nickie on 8/7/2021 at 11:18

Thanks for the replies - much appreciated.

@ A.Stahl - we will discuss Keyhunt again when we see what other comments might be made for including that category. As fortuni says, though, it's perhaps one of the most subjective types of mission and we have tried not to be subjective.

The MbyT thread is just supposed to give a general idea instead of perhaps looking through a mission release thread to see what sort of mission it is. Thief players don't need to be spoon-fed. They are perfectly capable of finding out more info before playing if they want. I don't like playing undead missions now so if I see something I do want to play, I check that it isn't in the undead or horror categories.

Galaer on 8/7/2021 at 19:05

Quote Posted by fortuni

I actually suggested removing this section but Samantha argued strongly that it should stay. She is very much more into mission plots than I am and persuaded me that Non Garrett characters are essential for plot development, an argument that I was rather pathetic at countering. I absolutely understand your position but you also have to try to see things from other peoples point of view, and that sums up the difficulty in deciding which sections to change in this thread, different people are attached to different sections. All your arguments are reasonable and fair but when considering how to go forward we all have to accommodate other people strongly help opinions.

I guess you will be forced to put every TDM mission into this category, because they never use Garrett as main character.

Samantha1 on 8/7/2021 at 19:22

I´d really like to hear peoples opinions about category non-garrett. I thought it´d be an appreciated category cause I for myself am a sucker for good plots and this also goes along with who is the main guy I´m playing. Do I want to play garrett the master-thief or do I want to play a guard, a pagan or a hammerite acolyte named shivan? But if this category is not needed by anyone then of course we can remove it again.

fortuni on 8/7/2021 at 19:57

We won't be listing TDM missions any more because they use a completely different set of terminology to Thief which doesn't fit into this thread, accordingly I have never in 8 years added any TDM mission to this thread because of that.

Anyway they have their own forum, I don't see why we have to constantly promote their missions on our forum.

Toulomne on 8/7/2021 at 20:04

I heartily agree such a category would be most welcome. While Galaer is right that the gameplay isn't inherently different from a purely mechanical point of view, I have a completely different feeling playing something like T2X, Dracula Reloaded, Batori, or one of RandomTaffer'd Conall missions. When I am playing a Garrett mission I think I sort of have a feeling of “well I've defeated the Trickster in the Maw, dealt with the mechanists, seen all sorts of crazy supernatural shit, I can probably handle whatever gets thrown my way.” I'm not really actively roleplaying in my head but this game has always had a very strong immersion into the story for me and that's what keeps me coming back for more...with a different character taking part of the story it feels completely different for me, even though sure you can say the controls are the same...:D

Ravenus1 on 9/7/2021 at 01:15

Quote Posted by Samantha1

The category makes perfect sense. I don't see too much use in trying to catalog missions too specific to personal taste. But this to me is obviously very specific type of mission. It might take place in a temple with some undead but it's not Garrett, I appreciate your efforts .

downwinder on 9/7/2021 at 02:01

is it possible to have a cannon / non cannon split on all fan missions,and yes i know nothing is truly cannon besides om games,but some of the fan missions have deep stories that can be cannon compared to some missions like doom/hexen/anything 100% non thief should be a non cannon so people know if its going to be a mission to enjoy over time or a quick killfest/etc

i hope that made sense as i feel i drifted toward the end

other wise amazing job everyone involved

fortuni on 9/7/2021 at 06:14

Quote Posted by downwinder

That would mean every mission would have to go into one or the other cannon/non cannon sections making both sections ridiculously massive, so no, that won't being happening.

Bosh on 9/7/2021 at 06:48

I'd appreciate a category that is "Non-Garrett". Thank you all :angel:

The proposed categories are great - and the 4 subcategories make it even easier/useful.

Samantha1 on 9/7/2021 at 07:23

Thank you all for your answers. Category Non-Garrett stays then as suggested :)