Yandros on 31/5/2017 at 11:46
And you'll want to swallow your fear and go in there if you ever hope to ditch that big gear you're toting around.
Motley Fool on 31/5/2017 at 21:49
Ok, I'm feeling particularly dumb here. I cannot even find the haunted crypt. Here I've been complaining about it all this time, and now when I'm actually partially not-really ready to deal with it, I can't even find it! I did make my way into the sewers thanks to the pagans, and crept through what I thought was a haunted crypt but perhaps was just part of the old underground temple? It had traps and crazy statues, but no horrifying undead murderers. And then I made my way back to the courtyard, saved all the Hammerites (by having knocked them all out earlier), finished off the pagans, and ... well, now I have nowhere to go.
Did I make a wrong turn? Miss an obvious door?
(just a mild hint, please!)
Tannar on 31/5/2017 at 22:01
You know those crates that were hiding the opening in the floor and (as you thought) preventing the sewer worker from leaving? Go down that ladder.
Motley Fool on 31/5/2017 at 22:24
Huh. :weird: I've been down there, of course (I had to, to get into the monastery), and I remember the cutscene with the guys talking about how terrible the crypt was. I even explored thoroughly enough to find the crayman temple. Has it just been so long since I was down there that I forgot about a door I couldn't unlock? Or a secret I didn't find?
I shall find out tonight! :D
Tannar on 31/5/2017 at 23:59
It's not a secret, it's just a door that you couldn't unlock until you found the key. However, the key was/is available in that room where the cutscene with the conversation about the ghost took place. In fact, in that conversation, one of them says straight out that the key to the crypt is on the desk right there. But, from that room, you have to cross the water with the broken bridge again to go back to the ladder you used originally to enter that level of the sewer. The door you missed is near that ladder.
twhalen2600 on 1/6/2017 at 00:47
Reading this thread is taking me back. I replayed 'The Black Frog' in 2015 for a school project and last year 'The Drymian Codex' for fun, but darn if I couldn't go back to them again. No surprise, as my favorites I usually play dozens of times. And nothing compares to my first playthrough of the Black Frog back when it first hit the net.
I'll also recommend two others Yandros worked on: 'Cell 6' and 'Deceptive Perception 2'. Yes, I do recommend the latter based on your request criteria.
I also enjoy your journal-esque writeups. Makes me want to do some myself!:sly:
Motley Fool on 1/6/2017 at 02:46
Oh look at that, there's the crypt door! As expected, I just either never noticed it :erg: or forgot about it as I progressed through the level.
Yay, I made it into the crypt!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:mad:
(Ok, actually it wasn't too bad. Yeah, the first attack was bad ("HERE I COME"), but I threw caution to the wind, just start running through the crypt (right-hand-rule), and made it out OK. Actually after a while I tried to figure out what the mechanism of the "ghost" was. It didn't seem to follow me, and even if I stood still and it hurt me, it kept moving away.) So, it worked out OK, I got rid of that 20lb. gear that had been weighing me down so long, and got a nifty shield. The end!
Oh... except I never found the "Trials of Saint Dismas". From the actual FM discussion thread, it seemed that on Expert mode I should have found it in Lucy's hideout (who did not turn out to be a ghost girl as I had mistakenly thought.) And there's something on top of her bookcase that for all the world looks like a scroll in a protective case. But it was unfrobbable, and the only other things I found in there were loot and her diary. Where did I miss it?
Anyway! That was a delightful 3 hours and 58 minutes, and it definitely qualified as "story development". And I felt happy that I had enough loot not to have to rob the Lucy, and to indeed leave her a Dewdrop. I'm just mushy that way.
On to the next one!
Motley Fool on 1/6/2017 at 02:48
Quote Posted by twhalen2600
I also enjoy your journal-esque writeups.
Why thank you!
Quote Posted by twhalen2600
I'll also recommend two others Yandros worked on: 'Cell 6' and 'Deceptive Perception 2'. Yes, I do recommend the latter based on your request criteria.
Added to the list!
Quote Posted by twhalen2600
I replayed 'The Black Frog' in 2015 for a school project
:weird: You went to a
much cooler school than I did.
Motley Fool on 3/6/2017 at 05:39
I have a friend with a daughter named Anna Liese. She's a sweet little girl. But thanks to Morbid Curiosity, it'll take a while before I can have fond thoughts of that name.
The Gallery Tour is one of the most amazing and fun ideas I've seen in a Thief game. A beautiful contrast between museum fun, monster fights, and TERROR. It's the Thief version of Jurrasic Park, if Jurassic Park also included ghostly suicides.
And when the zombies/undead emperor/skeleton haunts/torturer aren't killing me, the ambient music and sound effects are definitely shortening my lifespan.
Halfway through the gallery - what a great concept!
twhalen2600 on 4/6/2017 at 01:06
I really enjoyed the gallery segment as well - it's one of the reasons Morbid Curiosity was my favorite FM of 2016. I like any section in a game like that: there's a gallery or ride of some sort, you explore it after hours, and at one or more points can sneak into a behind-the-scenes type area. Very adventuresome!
I did go to a cool school as I also wrote a paper on System Shock 2! And I presented on TTLG in a class where we studied online communities.
I posted a link to my project once in the ThiefGen forums. The project's at 'thiefdesign.blogspot.com'. Not my best written work as I was going for quantity over quality, but it was lots of fun.
