BrokenArts on 5/1/2010 at 21:44
*Brings up console, initiates god mode, ahhh there's my Redeemer, and I'll need a Rocket Launcher, ohhh wait, this isn't UT.* :p
jtr7 on 5/1/2010 at 22:39
Thanks again, Brethren! There's always something to learn with Thief.:cool:
TazmanianDevil on 6/1/2010 at 01:43
Quote Posted by Brethren
In one of the factory bays, there's an spot in an area with swimmable water where water arrows regenerate automatically. Not sure what the regen time is. So if you're patient enough, you could have unlimited water arrows at your disposal.
Are you referring to Factory Bay D, the one where you can attach a vine rope above a pool of water? There are two water arrows in there but they're not regenerating.
massimilianogoi on 6/1/2010 at 02:04
Quote Posted by PotatoGuy
I don't know about any normal cheats, but you could try to install Thief MultiPlayer, host Soulforge, and enable cheats. Then type
/s watercrystal and you can get as many water arrows as you want.
Awesome!! :wot: How they managed to hack the sysytem like this??
TazmanianDevil on 6/1/2010 at 03:00
Well, for those of you a bit more adventurous, I have figured out a way to get exactly what I want.
I purchased all the equipment I wanted except for 1 water arrow (9 total) and then started the mission. I immediately saved the game. Then I restarted the mission and purchased the exact same equipment except this time I bought all the water arrows (10 total). Then I saved the game in a different slot.
Then using a binary hex based diff tool like Beyond Compare, I simply diff'd the two save game files. I had it show me only differences and then I searched for "09". When I come across an occurrence where "09" occurred in one files and "0A" (hex for 10) in the other, this told me the byte that contained the number of water arrows in my inventory (it was location $9407B in my files - yours might be different but it should probably be close).
Then I used a hex tool like XVI32 and opened one of those save game files and changed the byte I had previous found to FF as well as the following byte in the file. Save the file and load the game and now I have 65535 water arrows with which to enjoy! :-)
Goldmoon Dawn on 6/1/2010 at 04:09
Why, you little devil you... ;)
:ebil:
Renault on 6/1/2010 at 05:00
Quote Posted by TazmanianDevil
Are you referring to Factory Bay D, the one where you can attach a vine rope above a pool of water? There are two water arrows in there but they're not regenerating.
No, it's near the workshop area, the lowest part of the level (the map says something like "to lower areas"). There's a sewerlike waterway, and after some testing, it seems that only certain water crystals regen, and only if you have less than 5 total in your inventory. Regen time is set to about 1-1.5 minutes.
massimilianogoi on 6/1/2010 at 15:11
Quote Posted by TazmanianDevil
Well, for those of you a bit more adventurous, I have figured out a way to get exactly what I want.
I purchased all the equipment I wanted except for 1 water arrow (9 total) and then started the mission. I immediately saved the game. Then I restarted the mission and purchased the exact same equipment except this time I bought all the water arrows (10 total). Then I saved the game in a different slot.
Then using a binary hex based diff tool like Beyond Compare, I simply diff'd the two save game files. I had it show me only differences and then I searched for "09". When I come across an occurrence where "09" occurred in one files and "0A" (hex for 10) in the other, this told me the byte that contained the number of water arrows in my inventory (it was location $9407B in my files - yours might be different but it should probably be close).
Then I used a hex tool like XVI32 and opened one of those save game files and changed the byte I had previous found to FF as well as the following byte in the file. Save the file and load the game and now I have 65535 water arrows with which to enjoy! :-)
LOL
Good intuition! :thumb:
ZylonBane on 6/1/2010 at 15:18
Quote Posted by TazmanianDevil
So I've certainly played it as faithfully as possible and at this point, I just want an easy way to work around what I think is a pain in the ass about the mission.
The easy workaround is to not play it, cheater.
TazmanianDevil on 6/1/2010 at 16:46
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
The easy workaround is to not play it, cheater.
Well Taf you! This is one of my favorite games that I've played maybe a dozen times, always on Expert mode and I've never cheated. I think I've earned the right to make a small adjustment to one mission to change something I personally don't like without being hassled about it. If you're really a Thief fan, you should be encouraging people to find ways to play it that they enjoy, not discouraging them from playing.
