The Shroud on 12/12/2008 at 08:45
Actually Garrett doesn't visit any shops in the screenplay so there isn't any appearance of potions or other items for purchase. However this doesn't mean there can't still be alchemist shops in the city with potions and elixirs and other things. It just means Garrett doesn't visit them during the movie.
There is one brief scene in Garrett's apartment prior to his going to warn the Hammers of the Trickster's return, where he's seen preparing his water and fire arrows and readying his equipment. Through the course of the story Garrett makes do with his own equipment stores without having to go out and buy more (although by the time he goes to warn the Hammers he's down to his last emergency supplies, which last him until the climax in the Maw of Chaos).
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Another question: How will you do (and most of all: explain) the fall of the Trickster? Just an explosion after he somehow put all his energy into a simple stone?
Actually no. The "booby-trapped counterfeit eye" "opens" and releases the Builder's magic against the Trickster, which not only destroys him but unhinges the very framework of the Maw of Chaos - forcing Garrett to make a frenzied dash for the exit portal before the whole realm comes crashing down upon itself. Viktoria also confronts him in an effort to stop his escape, but Garrett prevails, taking an eye for an eye before finally getting out.
jtr7 on 12/12/2008 at 08:53
He could simply pass a shop in the streets, like Farkus Functionals, with the broken window boarded up, as he puts his lockpicks back in the pouch/pocket. With a sign on the door saying "Out of Business Sale / All proceeds to pay / for Bernard's funeral costs!" Seen only if you pause the DVD at the right moment. :p
And please, the crumbling Maw is a horrible cliché.
The Shroud on 12/12/2008 at 09:08
And saving the world isn't?
jtr7 on 12/12/2008 at 09:13
The twist is, he didn't set out to save the world. He almost couldn't care less. Almost. And grudgingly did it. But he was convinced almost near the very end, to give a damn. Then he was pissed off that it was only round one, and REALLY wanted to be left alone in peace.
The Maw can't crumble 'cause it has to continue to exist, and are you going to have the land above collapse into the hole? Plus Viki remodels the place in Con's absence. The Maw is spread far and wide and has many entrances. Do something else, like a Chaos storm, that way you get your cliché with a twist.
There are clichés that are based on common human behaviors, and there are Hollywood special effects and movie endings that have no basis but cheap thrills, and/or to sell more tickets. In Thief, it never truly ends. The Trickster isn't holding the Maw together with his power. Killing him does not remove the power of the Maw. It continues on just fine without him, because I believe he and Viki are guardians of the power in that part of the globe, not the creators of it. Wielders of it, fed by it, drawing their strength from it.
jtr7 on 12/12/2008 at 20:17
The eye for an eye thing would change any sequel, as Viki asks Garrett if he's come for revenge, when they meet back up in TMA, in the cutscene no one remembers from as soon as she starts talking on.
The Shroud on 12/12/2008 at 20:20
Well he does emerge from the Maw weary, wounded, and pissed off. As for the Keeper training in the beginning of the story, no, it's not a sports training montage. The screenplay opens exactly like the TDP Intro, with the introductory quote from the Book of the Stone, followed by the brief cutscene preceding the briefing of Lord Bafford's Manor (Keepers seen scribing in a library, one closes a book and locks it in a safe - we zoom into the keyhole and Garrett's tale begins, narrated by his mentor - the Keeper who Garrett met in the streets, who turns out to be the one we saw scribing in the large book in the beginning). Then the story is told from the Keeper's perspective of how Garrett was found, brought into the Order, trained, and how he left them... "We were training him to be one of us. But he found...other uses for those skills..." (spoken just as lightning flashes in a rainy night and Garrett's silhouette slides down a rope outside one of the Keeper compound's windows). Then the credits sequence begins, overlaying a montage of Garrett's many thievings and burglaries taken straight from TDP's Intro, plus several shots added in. And then the credits dissolve to Lord Bafford's Manor.
jtr7 on 12/12/2008 at 20:28
:thumb:
Beleg Cúthalion on 12/12/2008 at 20:49
Does he leave the Keeper Compound with tied bed sheets? :p
Have you thought about using the Keepers (I don't know, like two Keepers you can barely see in a room you can barely identify) and their briefing video quotes as a sort of greek choir (what they are - kind of - in the game, too)? I can imagine it's quite hard to focus on Garrett all the time.
The Shroud on 12/12/2008 at 20:56
No, he doesn't use bedsheets. He uses a rope. As for the Keepers, they make one brief appearance besides rescuing Garrett and the ending scene, and that is immediately following the Strange Bedfellows sequence (they are overheard discussing the situation in their usual cryptic style: "The weights in each pan of the Balance have increased greatly." "As he approaches his triumph, our foe has made himself vulnerable." "We cannot interfere - we can only watch and wait, to see whether his pridefully chosen pawn will prove his undoing.")
Something else I managed to work into the script was Garrett's mission briefings. Except instead of briefing a player for an upcoming level, Garrett is recording his musings and plans in his own journal for the purpose of cluing in the audience to where he's going and what he's trying to accomplish. The briefings from The Haunted Cathedral, The Lost City, Undercover, Return to the Haunted Cathedral, and Strange Bedfellows are all completely intact. For The Sword, it's actually Viktoria who briefs Garrett. For the Maw of Chaos, we see the Hammerites telling Garrett what they need him to do, and he comments with a smirk, "Heh. I've never robbed a god before. It'll be a challenge."
jtr7 on 12/12/2008 at 21:20
"Marvelous. Viktoria can fill you in on all the particulars." :)
