Gingerbread Man on 14/8/2007 at 15:54
Quote Posted by jtr7
(Derived from "Larceny", for those who don't know...)
Actually, it was derived from the drummer for Metallica. And that's straight from the horse's mouth.
jtr7 on 14/8/2007 at 18:57
Haha! Thanks GBM.:thumb:
A nice coincidence, then?
Beleg Cúthalion on 14/8/2007 at 19:10
What about Garrett Gates? Oh no, don't hit me...
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http://www.eidosforum.de/images/smilies/addon/grinundwech.gif Or Keith Garrett?
Quote Posted by Nameless Voice
I think that surnames as we know them are only a fairly recent invention.
15th/16th century, I read few days ago. But it would still fit the historical component of Thief, by the way remember Gorman Truart.
Jah on 14/8/2007 at 19:17
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
15th/16th century, I read few days ago.
Depends entirely on where you live. There are countries even today were surnames still don't really exist; I believe in Iceland, for example, people are still called "son/daughter of such-and-such".
Gingerbread Man on 14/8/2007 at 19:21
Also Manny Ramirez.
There are actually a lot of last names in the fiction, but it's not consistent. Some people have only one name (either because we are never told their first / last name, or maybe because they haven't got one -- certainly in the Real World that comes about because the NPC in question is too minor to warrant a full name, Kevel I'm looking at you), some are known by an epithet (Basso the Boxman, for instance), and some have two names (just wander around Shipping / Receiving a while, you'll see).
I've always thought that the mish-mash was good. It lent more weight to the social stratification, religious and otherwise dogmatic ideologies, and general "fend for yourself" nature of the City.
I don't imagine for a second that it was a deliberate effort on the part of the writers to create such a commentary, but it's just another one of those things which -- when taken alongside all the other threads and undercurrents and asides and cryptic references -- combine to give the first two Thief games one of the richest gameworlds outside of an RPG. The secret, I think, is to hint and refer to things rather than spell it all out.
jtr7 on 14/8/2007 at 19:26
Yes.:cool:
XTypeCybrid on 15/8/2007 at 09:02
Quote Posted by Gingerbread Man
Actually, it was derived from the drummer for Metallica. And that's straight from the horse's mouth.
Garrett freeman..
GaijinSin on 15/8/2007 at 11:47
Wasn't Garrett a street scamp, thus, probably an orphan or abandoned child. Wouldn't Garrett be rather lacking of the proper channels for a surname? I say Garrett is his only name unless he had decided he wanted one.
june gloom on 15/8/2007 at 17:10
"i was a kid, no home, no parents..."
Maddermadcat on 15/8/2007 at 17:50
My thoughts exactly... He has no family, and lives outside of the law. He wouldn't have, or need, a last name. =P
