Kolya on 6/2/2012 at 19:43
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
You probably didn't have appendicitis.
I know what kind of doc you are.
Renzatic on 6/2/2012 at 20:40
Quote Posted by Kolya
So by
using my own experience on my second appendicitis (an "irritating attitude" according to you) and putting ice on it against the advice of several doctors who told me the same grim tales like Renz just did (Rupture!->Sepsis!->Death!), I avoided being drugged and cut up by doctors who didn't know better back then.
Comeon, man. It's your appendix. A completely useless, volatile organ that does nothing but collect bacteria, and occasionally bursts for no apparent reason. It's like you've got a death bag in your gut, waiting to spill its toxic contents into your abdomen. You've been lucky twice. Why tempt fate a third time?
Though to play devils advocate, it could be like my tonsils. I've had them swell on me twice. Both times to the point where I couldn't eat any food, and had a little trouble breathing. Yet each time, they deflated back to normal size within a couple of days, and I'm still walking around with my tonsils. You might be facing a similar situation with your appendix. It might not ever bother you again, and you'll live out the rest of your life without having to get it removed. It might even act up again a 3rd time, and do the exact same thing.
But what if it does it a 4th time? A 5th? Will packing it in ice continue to work? Will your luck hold out? It's more a liability than anything. Next time it happens, I'd get the damn thing cut out and be done with it.
SubJeff on 6/2/2012 at 21:28
Quote Posted by Kolya
I know what kind of doc you are.
One that wants to save lives?
Some of the statements you've made here are amongst the most medically ignorant and stupidly unsafe I've ever read in my life with regards to appendicitis. Good luck surviving bowel perforation if you ever get it.
I don't suppose you've ever seen one, have you? No wait, your uncle will have had one and been one of the rare people that have an easy time and based on that all the stats, all the evidence, means nothing.
Kolya on 6/2/2012 at 21:36
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Comeon, man. It's your appendix. A completely useless, volatile organ that does nothing but collect bacteria
Beneficial gut flora, please. Me and my bacteria, we're like so! *
crosses two fingers*
Harvester on 6/2/2012 at 22:10
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Koyla - you're amazing. You can diagnose appendicitis without histology! Surgeons can't even tell with 100% certainty when they can SEE the appendix.
That reminds me of my appendectomy. I came to the hospital and they took some blood (as well as doing some various poking and prodding) but before the blood results were even back the surgeon looked at my tongue and told the nurse to admit me and schedule the operation. Then a young resident doc said "we're going to tear out your appendix
(that's actually how he said it, it was amusing to me even then) but even if it turns out not be to appendicitis, at least you can never get appendicitis in the future". I thought that was weird at the time, I mean you're not even sure if I have appendicitis but you're going to rip out my appendix anyway? But I'm glad they did because it turned out to be appendicitis after all.
Other weird things about my appendectomy: the surgeon gave me the old-fashioned cut on the side instead of the modern operation that they do with a scope or whatever which leaves two smaller cuts that heal much faster. I thought all modern hospitals had adopted the new method by now.
And when I returned to the hospital because the area of the wound had become all warm and red the surgeon told me to put some ice on it. Weird advice as it developed into a large abscess and I had to get that removed and cleaned and spent another week at the hospital. Was not a fun week, I was sick to my stomach most of the time, several friends who came over to visit had to watch me puke my guts out.
Still, I'm grateful to the doctors for not letting me die, no real grudges against medical practitioners here. And the nursing staff was great as well.
SubJeff on 6/2/2012 at 22:43
It's not really the new way, it's just another way and the best way is the way the surgeon is most comfortable with.
Women tend to have laparoscopic appendicectomies because it's a clinical diagnosis (no scan is reliable) and you can have a look around and make sure it's not an ovarian problem or something. This happens often enough to make it worth it.
The reason it gets taken out even if it looks normal to the naked eye is you can't always tell if there is inflammation, hence the need for histology, and it's entirely possible for it to look normal and them perforate a few days later.
Safety first. It's your life, your health, and we take it seriously.
Harvester on 6/2/2012 at 23:09
Yeah and when you've already opened me up, you might as well take it out, it's not like the organ serves a purpose. The surgeon said to me after the operation that it looked "dirty", whatever that means, he didn't specify. Maybe it was close to rupturing and was already starting to leak or something.
Thanks for the info on the different types of operations. A guy on another forum said that the way the operation was performed on me was hopelessly out of date, so that's what I assumed.
PigLick on 7/2/2012 at 11:52
I want to just say that most of my doctor experiences have been positive and why the HELL WOULD PEOPLE WANT TO BECOME DOCTORS IF THIS IS THE SORT OF SHIT THEY RECEIVE.
cmon ffs
Ghostly Apparition on 7/2/2012 at 14:23
Quote Posted by PigLick
I want to just say that most of my doctor experiences have been positive and why the HELL WOULD PEOPLE WANT TO BECOME DOCTORS IF THIS IS THE SORT OF SHIT THEY RECEIVE.
cmon ffs
yeah! What happened to the good old days when if you became a doctor people thought you were God and never questioned you about anything..damn those were the days...lol
PigLick on 7/2/2012 at 16:55
fuck do you even have a brain?
derp derp derp ahaha why even think? haha
