Platinumoxicity on 10/7/2009 at 20:05
Quote Posted by Koki
Oh, so you're saying that women can't be professionals? All they're good for is sexy bottoms?
The problem is this: People can't design good female protagonists anymore. Since when did you see a female protagonist that wasn't just like the rest? I guess the last time that happened was in Silent Hill 3. Game designers are abusing the physical appearance of females to design unimaginative characters that are "only good for their sexy bottoms."
If a thief game is going to have a female protagonist:
-She needs to have professional thiefy gear. Baggy, not-shiny clothes to conceal human features and blend in darkness.
-She needs to be professional, like Garrett. Trust no-one, talk like she knows what she's doing, not be recognisable as a woman from written dialogue.
-She needs to look normal. And how did poor women in medieval times look? Like shit. Zaya in T2X was a fairly good try as a protagonist, but her appearance was incredibly unrealistic.
-A female protagonist has to be a strong character, but it shouldn't be overdone, like in many games today. T2X succeeded with this one pretty well.
EM really needs to get a good character designer if they're going to scrap a perfectly good Garrett in order to come up with a worthy female counterpart. If they fail at accomplishing it they'll compensate the loss with, what else than skin-tight black latex and sexy bottom.
StrangerInTheNight on 10/7/2009 at 21:49
How about Emma Thiaf. Hand on heart, there used to be a girl at my school called Emma Pratt - her parents certainly had a sense of humour!
I do also like jtr7's suggestion of Alice. Nice little tip of the hat to LGS.
Platinumoxicity on 11/7/2009 at 09:44
Quote Posted by Dia
Pic of McGee's Alice
Just sayin'.
;)
Wasn't Alice mentally ill?
Dia on 11/7/2009 at 13:10
More like Righteous Anger. ;)
Petike the Taffer on 12/7/2009 at 22:01
Quote Posted by Platinumoxicity
The problem is this: People can't design good female protagonists anymore. Since when did you see a female protagonist that wasn't just like the rest? I guess the last time that happened was in Silent Hill 3. Game designers are abusing the physical appearance of females to design unimaginative characters that are "only good for their sexy bottoms."
If a thief game is going to have a female protagonist:
-She needs to have professional thiefy gear. Baggy, not-shiny clothes to conceal human features and blend in darkness.
-She needs to be professional, like Garrett. Trust no-one, talk like she knows what she's doing, not be recognisable as a woman from written dialogue.
-She needs to look normal. And how did poor women in medieval times look? Like shit. Zaya in T2X was a fairly good try as a protagonist, but her appearance was incredibly unrealistic.
-A female protagonist has to be a strong character, but it shouldn't be overdone, like in many games today. T2X succeeded with this one pretty well.
EM really needs to get a good character designer if they're going to scrap a perfectly good Garrett in order to come up with a worthy female counterpart. If they fail at accomplishing it they'll compensate the loss with, what else than skin-tight black latex and sexy bottom.
Exactly. Good points, PO.
Maddermadcat on 13/7/2009 at 03:14
Quote Posted by Platinumoxicity
She needs to look normal. And how did poor women in medieval times look? Like shit. Zaya in T2X was a fairly good try as a protagonist, but her appearance was incredibly unrealistic.
Thief isn't medieval. Sorry.
And I've yet to see any women in thief that look like shit. So I agree with your initial point; she needs to look normal, not like a sex object, but also not "like shit." :)
To be honest I find it sort of difficult to picture good ol' Benny chasing after a woman with murderous intent. Poor guy would be too conflicted. Probably end up blackjacked in some closet.
jtr7 on 13/7/2009 at 04:08
She shouldn't look anything but prepared for the task at hand with contingency plans.
Dia on 13/7/2009 at 05:01
Quote Posted by Maddermadcat
good ol' Benny ........ Probably end up blackjacked in some closet.
And that would be different
how?
;)
Platinumoxicity on 13/7/2009 at 13:36
Quote Posted by jtr7
She shouldn't look anything but prepared for the task at hand with contingency plans.
Yes the main things are:
-Realistic clothes and gear. Nothing should look like it's there just for show.
-What didn't poor people have in steampunk times? Makeup. Skin conditioners. Shampoo. A thief doesn't need to make herself look good. She's never seen anyway.
-One thing that could make the character more believeable: Rough voice. Not every thief-girl has a cutesy "Rikku voice" (e.g Rachael Leigh Cook). Not a deep, sexy, dominatrix voice either (e.g Mary E. McGlynn). Maybe a kind of "sore throat" whiskey-voice. (I can't remember any examples :( )
