Ulukai on 6/12/2011 at 20:17
^ Brill, was looking for the video card one but couldn't find it. Great site but not the easiest to navigate at times.
lost_soul on 6/12/2011 at 20:56
and for the love of god, make sure you get a decent amount of RAM. I would say at MINIMUM 4 GB, preferably 8. I'm currently fixing a user's Vista machine that has ONE GB of RAM and it is so s.l.o.w. that I would rather be using a 486 with Windows 95.
Renault on 6/12/2011 at 21:32
If you read the OP, it states rather plainly that he's planning on starting with 8 GB of RAM, minimum.
Zerker on 6/12/2011 at 22:26
I would recommend the i5-2500. Don't bother with the K unless you are overclocking; it's the same CPU otherwise. It handles everything I throw at it, so I really have no complaints. I'm also building a "console PC" for my TV, which will include an i3-2100T. I'll let you know how that turns out.
That CPU chart is interesting. Makes me feel sorry for AMD.
EvaUnit02 on 7/12/2011 at 01:02
Quote Posted by Ulukai
Random thoughts:
* Build it yourself, but don't talk about it in public.
* It's not a fucking
rig, it's a PC. For the same reason a car is a car, not a
ride.
* If you must call it a rig or put lights on it, don't mention it in casual conversation or come near me, ever
Lemme guess, you're also one of those pedants who throws a tizzy whenever they hear someone referring to gun magazines as clips?
lost_soul on 7/12/2011 at 01:48
Hey now, I like my blue and red LED fans. They make excellent night lights. Some day I will put a green one in front for completeness's sake. I'm still updating that user's computer, but now I have to go help someone return a TV that developed white lines through the screen less than a month after they got it. Quality control FTW.
Yakoob on 7/12/2011 at 05:36
Thanks for the replies guys. and ya I saw the CPU/Graphic card charts, which is what led to my initial choices :) And as for resolution, I wouldn't mind upping my gaming res at all, it's just that I am used to smaller because of my current old pc (I played Doom3 in 800x600 and no AA just to get playable framerats, which was somewhatpainful :| )
Now I have all the knowledge (and the tools) to build it myself and have done that in the past, but I have been out of the loop on latest tech for a while. And the sheer amount of different combinations of parts you'd need to get is what puts me off. Mainly if I get a prebuilt:
* It just "works." I get the box, maybe update drivers, and I can play newest games.
* I don't need to hunt down every part individually, one single purchase and I'm done.
* I don't need to deal with a billion combinations of the same part (MSI vs PNY vs GIGABYTE, GTX 560 or 560 Ti or 560 448, 1GB or 2GB or 1500mhz or 1645mhz, Corsair vs. Other brand or... fuck). That's even worse for the mobo and its sockets (cpu, pci, agp) which I am way out of loop and the naming schemes make me go wtf
* I dont need to freak out that the specific part I got is isn't the right vendor/clockspeek/voltage/bandwidth/etc. and is thus incompatible or total bottleneck to the rest off the system because it's off by like 10mhz on some turbo dual SSD SODIMM DDR GTX FrontBus L15 cache bullshit.
* I don't need to freak out about assembly shit like a loose screw / not applying enough/too much thermal paste / static frying everything / getting the right pin connectors. Yes I had my computer burst into flames once just because I turned the power on. Yes I had lost gigabytes of video footage because someone "dropped" the hard drive. Shit like that leaves a scar when working with hardware.....
Unless I got a reliable list telling me exactly what each part should be (including the exact manufacturer, the on-board memory, frequencies, slot type etc) then I might consider just building it myself, cause that's the main hassle for me.
EDIT: and no rim lights. It drives me batshit insane when my computer "glows." I just got a new laptop mouse and didnt realize until I plugged it that it has retarded LED lights inside it; considering painting the transparent bits black to kill it (or just ripping the goddamn LED out).
Koki on 7/12/2011 at 06:14
Shouldn't this be in tech
Yakoob on 7/12/2011 at 06:17
So basing off of my initial thoughts and (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227382) this, if I were to build it myself, here's what I very roughly found so far:
$319.99 - Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K$219.99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$269.99 - MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card$299.99 ZOTAC ZT-50313-10M GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card + FREE BATTLEFIELD 3
OR: $299.99 EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
OR: $309.99 MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$169.99 - ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
$46.99 - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
$59.99 - Rosewill GEAR X3 Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,Support up to 15.36" Video Card,come with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 140mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear 120mm Fan,Option Fan-1x Top 120mm Fan,2x Side 120mm Fan
$59.99 - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready
$139.99 - Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$18.99 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$99.99 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
$12.98 - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
$25.99 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
Which comes up to $1077.89. The prebuilt I linked has i7-2600k, 8GB more memory and costs the same. So there's another reason for prebuilts. And I'm not even sure if all the parts would work together (this is just a rough estimate above)
Also, researching I kept stumbling into "people who buy this also buy..." and saw tons of heatsinks/fans/cooling shit etc (I put the thermal compound and the cooler master fan up there) which again brings me back to how out of the loop I am. What would I need besides the components themselves? Does the tower come with all the screws and mounting plates? does the mobo have the fan/heatsinks? Do all the parts have proper screws and connectors? Or is that another chunk of crap I'd need to worry about?
EDIT: just noticed the case comes with fans, so that's sorted at least. And I'm leaning towards i5 now: (
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=287) . i7 would be nice for video stuff, but Im not sure if the boost is worth the extra 100 bucks.
