bikerdude on 8/12/2011 at 14:26
Quote Posted by Yakoob
So my 5 year old HP laptop, while a formidable machine for its time,
Quote Posted by Brethren
Anyway, I have no advise, except to recommend that you PM Bikerdude - he helped me (and countless others here) with system setups. I bought a desktop pretty much verbatim the way he laid it out for me about 3 years ago, and it's still running strong, and running anything released these days extremely well.
Sorry for the late reply, I promise to keep an I on ThiefGen from now on, heh.
@Bretheren, glad its still going strong then mista ;-)
@Yakoob, do you still need a hand with this? I can see your going for a i7 2600k based system - if money is tight then I would go for the i5 2500k as its almost as fast at 2/3rds the price. I also see your looking at the nVidia 560Ti and SSD's both of which I have been recently researching.. What retails are you using? NewEgg and Tiger I'm guessing?
I upgraded my system a few weeks ago -
Case: Fractal Design R3
Mobo: Asus P8Z68-V
CPU: Intel i5 2500K with 140mm blowdown 8pipe DHT cooler.
MEM: 8GB G.skill DDR3-1600 @CL8-8-8-8-24 @1.5v
HDD: Samsung F1 320GB*4 in raid 0 (600Mb/s read/write) and 2.5 500Gb sata for backup.
GFX: Asus GTX480 w/inno3D hawk cooler, which i had skimmed - idle 35c Load 65c
CDR: Samsung DVD/RW
SND: Xfi gamer.
MON: 3x NEC 20" 20WGX"pro
OS: Win7x64
:cheeky:
Yakoob on 8/12/2011 at 16:09
Hey glad you found the thread! Yes I could very much use advise, particularily on the Mobo, case, fans and any other "accessiories" I am missing out (extra fans, thermal paste, cables, etc)
My current lineup is in the OP but to reiterate:
Quote:
$219.99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
$299.99 ZOTAC ZT-50313-10M GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card + FREE BATTLEFIELD 3
OR: $299.99 EVGA 012-P3-2068-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 448 Cores Classified 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
OR: $309.99 MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$169.99 - ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
OR: Something ~$100, lots of choices, not sure what is good. Any thoughts on $104.99 GIGABYTE GA-P67A-D3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard? Should I stick to P67 or go for Z68?
$46.99 - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
$59.99 - Rosewill GEAR X3 Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,Support up to 15.36" Video Card,come with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 140mm Fan,1x Top 120mm Fan,1x Rear 120mm Fan,Option Fan-1x Top 120mm Fan,2x Side 120mm Fan
OR: $55.49 Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$59.99 - Rosewill RV2-700 700W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Ready
$139.99 - Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$18.99 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM
$99.99 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
$12.98 - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
$25.99 - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
I am going with i5 instead of i7 cause the performance boost isnt worth the extra 100 bucks. And yes I am looking primarily at Newegg/Amazon, albeit I'm still considering prebuilt (ibuypower can deliver the same setup at the same price + water cooling and assembly done for me. But they only have 560Ti 2GB, not 560Ti 448)
Sulphur on 8/12/2011 at 16:52
Quote Posted by Eldron
Barely?, they're perfectly fine at stock, even with the shitty thermal-pad.
There's a reason why I qualified that with an IMO.
I don't think 75+ degrees on extended load is optimal for any machine. Whether that's good enough for everyone else is up to them.
bikerdude on 8/12/2011 at 16:57
Quote Posted by Yakoob
My current lineup is in the OP but to reiterate:
I am going with i5 instead of i7 cause the performance boost isnt worth the extra 100 bucks. And yes I am looking primarily at Newegg/Amazon, albeit I'm still considering prebuilt (ibuypower can deliver the same setup at the same price + water cooling and assembly done for me. But they only have 560Ti 2GB, not 560Ti 448)
Ok will do a list via newegg this evening.
Volitions Advocate on 8/12/2011 at 22:54
Quote Posted by Sulphur
There's a reason why I qualified that with an IMO.
I don't think 75+ degrees on extended load is optimal for any machine. Whether that's good enough for everyone else is up to them.
I use the stock intel cooler and never go above 60, unless a wire gets jostled into the fan and slows it down.
Yakoob on 9/12/2011 at 12:56
well (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227382) this just got back in stock and I am super tempted to get it. Only thing is the card is GTX560, not even TI. But it has 16GB ram and i7-2600k, and still comes out cheaper than if I bought those parts separately. Any thoughts, Bikerdude? And any other outlets worth checking?
Also should I wait until AFTER xmas? I am not really seeing any good xmas deals tbh. So maybe post-xmas when they try to get rid of leftover stock? Or does that not apply to PC parts in general?
bikerdude on 9/12/2011 at 14:04
several problems with that machine, the PSU, ram, sound card are all 'unbranded' - so very likely cheap and possibly nasty. Wait untill I have knocked up a build via newegg for you.
Yakoob on 9/12/2011 at 14:18
Mmkk I trust you :) I am cool with on board audio tho, tbh, not a big audiophile
bikerdude on 9/12/2011 at 15:35
$219.99 - Intel Core i5-2500K $299.99 - EVGA 560Ti 448cores (dual fan + $15 for 5yr warranty w/evga)
$169.99 - ASUS P8Z68-V (better than the geine as it has more pci-slots)
$64.99 - G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 8GB (2 x 4GB) (CL8 & 1.5v)
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445)
$59.99 - Rosewill GEAR X3 Gaming ATX Mid Tower (not a bad case for the price, CPU hole in mobo plate and side loading HDD slots, and loads of fan slots.)
$59.99 - Rosewill Green Series RG700-S12 700W (single 12v rail, very stable)
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006650&isNodeId=1&Description=Rosewill+Green+Series+RG700-S12+700W+&x=11&y=16)
$139.99 - 500GB Seagate Momentus XT ST95005620AS (Hybrid SSD/HDD drive)
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591)
$18.99 - ASUS 24X DVD Burner - Bulk $99.99 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit$12.98 - Arctic Cooling MX-4 the best thermal paste atm.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186038)
$48 - Antec Kuler (blow down cooler, cool's the NB and VRMs)
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209030)
The above spec is almost identical to my own PC,
* I am running a raid-0 array of 4x Samsung 320GB F1 drives. The Hybrid drive I specc'd while smaller than the 1TB you mentioned will blow the 1TB drive out of the water on frequently accessed data.
* The EVGA card is a very good deal as it will be as fast as a GTX570 and HD6970 on average, it has a twin fans so will be cool & quiet. And you can buy an extended 5/10yr warranty from evga for a few bucks.
* The ram is the same as I am running, both fast(via tight timings) and cool (due to the 1.5v).
* The mobo, is better than the one you specc'd as it has way more options and is the same price.
* The PSU is a single 12v rail unit, which will be fair more stable than multi-rail units - I myself am running a Nexus 1000W single rail unit.
* And lastly the cooler is the same as I am using, I choose it because it cools the North-bridge and the VRM heats-inks which is often overlooked by almost everyone.
This was just a rough guide I did during my lunch hour, if you want a more detailed spec I can do that over the weekend.
Yakoob on 9/12/2011 at 17:23
Thanks a bunch man :) Few comments
* Any particular reason for EVGA? (
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1339/pg7/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-cores-graphics-card-review-skyrim.html) This benchmark omits EVGA but shows both Zotac and MSI as the best, and (
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5170/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-with-448-cores-launch-recap-msi-gigabyte-zotac-and-evga) this review makes it sound as somewhat of an oddball.
* Regaring ASUS P8Z68-V, Im not gonna SLI so dont need extra PCI slots. All I want is the stuff to support the setup (socet, PCIE2(16x), 1600+ RAM), onboard Audio and Ethernet card, and some USB3 slots. Any good choices out of the $100 bunch?
* The RAM says "Designed for Intel P67 motherboard" but the board is Z68, would that be an issue (I'm guessing it's just marketing fluff, but confirming)
* PSU - lots of reviews on the link you posted say it has issues under stress (heavy gaming) and lots of PCs shut down because of it. So maybe not the best choice?
I'd love a bit more detailed spec over the weekend, if you don't mind. I am actually abroad and coming back to the US on the 17th, so that's when I'll start ordering and buying, so have a bit of time. And again, do you think I should wait until after xmas with this?
Thanks again :)
