Volitions Advocate on 8/4/2010 at 16:14
Well I think i'll install the update and then the hack. if you don't update you're barred from logging into PSN. which means no more PSX games from the online store, or downloadable demos or game updates.
This is lame sony.
EvaUnit02 on 8/4/2010 at 16:45
Quote Posted by CCCToad
Installed it, but never used it. It just ran at a snail's pace.
This.
The PS3 kernel didn't give Linux direct access to the hardware, so everything ran slowly in software. I was hoping to retire my Xbox 1 w/ XBMC, but fat chance of that happening with the PS3. No playing Quake either, again the Xbox 1 could actually do that.
Ostriig on 8/4/2010 at 17:39
Quote Posted by Phatose
There is no version of windows for the cell processor.
Aha, thanks. Well, I guess if I ever decide to hack it and put a new OS on it, it will be Linux. Then again, for me, the likelihood of
wanting another OS on the thing is next to hurf lol. I guess it's just nice knowing I have the option.
Volitions Advocate on 8/4/2010 at 21:46
The lure of it for me is to think that rather than buildling a media centre pc to somehow hide in your living room without making a crapload of noise, you could just dual boot your ps3.
Sure you can stream media from your PC but that doesn't always work so swell. Of course the other OS runs so poorly this doesn't work but if sony were really smart they could have really taken advantage of the geeks by offering them this functionality. I would've paid an extra hundred bucks or two for a full fledged 7 core PC with a next gen video card that hides in my game console that is sitting in my living room anyway. Release it as a separate model or something.
its true that i don't get a lot of functionality out of it. I'm not even running gnome or kde. I'm just using it for screwing around in emacs and such. But it is much easier than trying to dual boot my PC and I can screw around with Unix somewhere safe without complicating my windows machine.
lost_soul on 8/4/2010 at 21:58
The machine only has 256 megs of RAM anyway... it isn't as though you could run a whole lot with that.
This whole thing is a lesson. Never trust a device where the manufacturer can require you to install updates post-sale in order to keep it performing as it did when it was purchased. It is only a matter of time before the games you buy require the new firmware version, so it will come down to a choice between playing new games and running another OS
On a PC, we aren't subject to things like this. Updates are well-spelled out as to what they do, and most games don't care if you have the latest security patches installed.
SubJeff on 8/4/2010 at 22:05
Windows updates?
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Sure you can stream media from your PC but that doesn't always work so swell
I thought this until I realised that I should be using PS3 Media Server and also don't be torrenting at the same time as streaming to the PS3 if you're doing it through the same router. Now, I have minimal problems.
Zerker on 8/4/2010 at 22:17
Quote Posted by Malf
I'm even tempted to whack in a new, large hard disk, but the only thing holding me back is that apparently, Demon's Souls saves are protected, and don't transfer.
It should transfer if you do a system backup / restore operation. It just doesn't let you make duplicates to alternate storage devices. You can backup to any USB device (I used an external HD). If you have space issues on the backup destination, you can always delete your HD installs or PSN games and re-install either afterwards.
If you have ANY alternate drive lying around (or a friend has one) you can always do a trial run, with the original drive to fall back on if it doesn't work.
gunsmoke on 8/4/2010 at 22:54
Quote Posted by lost_soul
This whole thing is a lesson. Never trust a device where the manufacturer can require you to install updates post-sale in order to keep it performing as it did when it was purchased. It is only a matter of time before the games you buy require the new firmware version, so it will come down to a choice between playing new games and running another OS
The PSP has several games that require certain updated firmware versions.
froghawk on 9/4/2010 at 01:28
So, why would Sony do this?
Adanux on 9/4/2010 at 01:40
Some hacker figured out how to use the other OS option to mess around with the PS3 in a way that concerned Sony. After the debacle that was security on the PSP, it's not surprising that Sony would want to keep the PS3 piracy free. Still, even if it's a feature that few people use, something seems inherently wrong about removing a feature that was once used as a selling point.
