Telliamed on 11/4/2009 at 19:46

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No, that wasn't it at all. Turns out I had been playing the mission without tnhScript. The OSM had the wrong name. :joke: :sweat:

Once I set that right it all went like a breeze. Well, as much as you can call being stuck in an endless nightmare a "breeze".

I was a bit amused to see a couple custom objects from Amnesia. (the hanging candle lantern and chain) And the only complaint is I was disappointed that the egg pods weren't alive. Those things gave me a fit in SS2 (especially the swarm pods) so I was creeping through that sewer real timid until I realised I could smack 'em with a sword and nothing would happen.

Telliamed on 28/4/2009 at 00:14

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So nothing to say on Public Scripts? It's a bit awkward when no one gives me any bug reports. Make something up if you have to.

A while back I recall some talk about WindowShade. I've got that here, as well as ControlWindowShade. But I made a small tweak to how they act in TDP. When the game starts, I change the textures to match the current light state. But perhaps you have a perverse reason for the light and textures to be out of synch initially? I can't imagine why, so I'll do it this way unless someone speaks out.

Then there's the elementals. TDP is supposed to make them shrink upon dying. But I don't think it was ever used. They kept SlayResult=Normal so they just die and disappear. But I can set SlayResult=NoEffect and have the scale tweq destroy the elemental when it completes. But honestly, I think it looks dumb. Which is probably why the original games didn't use it. So is it worth worrying about that part of the script working? The issues are:
- How fast should the scale be? TDP made the fade time take 1000ms always. I think a faster speed is at least slightly less annoying.
- Should the attached particles be on or off when shrinking?

And are there any T1/G scripts that you really want in the next release? I've got through the Bonehoard scripts, and a few scattered ones from other missions. But some of the tricky ones like the Assassins look-back script could take time and I'd rather get a release done sooner rather than later. And I still haven't tested anything in Thief 1 or SS2.

R Soul on 28/4/2009 at 15:38

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CommandControl sems to have stopped working. I tried a variety of triggers (frob button, enter boundstrigger etc) but the script doesn't seem to respond.

TrapKillEvents works, but if the player tries to look around while it's active, when the timer expires the view will instantly snap to the direction in which the player tried to look.
Things go a bit haywire if the player is moving/rotating when the trap is activated. The motion will continue while the trap is active. In the case of moving, the player will keep going even after the timeout. Perhaps this trap could also issue a halt_player command, which works in Thief2.exe.

TrapCamAttach: What does forcereturn do? I don't understand the description "Always return the camera". Return to what? When setting it to true, I can't see any difference in the object's behaviour.

TrapFreezePlayer: freeze_speed=-1 is an amusing setting. As a temporary thing, it might go well in a 'The Sword' type of mission. Imagine how evil it would be to have it triggered via an AI's Alert Response. Then the player tries to run away...

I will do more later.

Yandros on 28/4/2009 at 17:08

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This would be wonderful, if it works. I tried to manually do a halt_player in Deathmatch during the player respawn sequence, but it didn't work. I think what I did eventually was have every roombrush be concrete and do a halt_player on TrigPlayer. It was easy in that mission since it only had a few roombrushes, but it might work much better and be easier if the script did this itself.


My understanding is that if the player takes combat damage, the view is returned to the player from the camera, so he has a chance to defend himself. I've never tested it in any release of the script though.


PsymH - I always use a marker with TrapCamAttach, which shouldn't have that problem.

LarryG on 29/4/2009 at 00:44

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You may be thinking of (http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125929&highlight=WindowShade) this thread.