NEW TDM mission "William Steele 4: The Warrens" by Grayman - 2nd Sep 2018 - by Kin
Spyrano on 4/9/2018 at 16:35
Great mission. Thanks Grayman!
New Horizon on 5/9/2018 at 16:55
Quote Posted by zajazd
I never liked it, something feels off - the movement, the visuals, but congrats to the author.
How long ago has been since you tried it? If it was an earlier version then things could certainly feel quite different, but as for the movement, I personally tweaked the movement of the character by running Thief 2 side by side with TDM and adjusting it until it was as close as I could get it. The visuals are clearly going to be a bit different, but that is going to vary from mission to mission based on authors artistic preferences. There have been a number of improvements to the visuals recently, including experimental soft shadow edges. That being said, TDM was never meant to be a carbon copy of Thief, but can't please everyone.
zajazd on 5/9/2018 at 19:40
Quote Posted by New Horizon
How long ago has been since you tried it? If it was an earlier version then things could certainly feel quite different, but as for the movement, I personally tweaked the movement of the character by running Thief 2 side by side with TDM and adjusting it until it was as close as I could get it. The visuals are clearly going to be a bit different, but that is going to vary from mission to mission based on authors artistic preferences. There have been a number of improvements to the visuals recently, including experimental soft shadow edges. That being said, TDM was never meant to be a carbon copy of Thief, but can't please everyone.
Right, I should give it a try again, the last time was I think around 5 years ago.
Judith on 6/9/2018 at 06:05
Actually Thief 2 movement didn't age well, with all the swaying and sliding on surfaces. TDM movement is more modern, feels more fluid and transparent.
Marbrien on 6/9/2018 at 13:05
Nice mission! Among other things I liked the memorial to Sir Taffsalot, and the fact that the villain wakes up if you happened to have knocked them out before discovering their real identity.
pwl on 6/9/2018 at 13:08
Yeah the memorial to Sir Taffsalot was a Great touch.
Renault on 6/9/2018 at 17:00
Quote Posted by Judith
Actually Thief 2 movement didn't age well, with all the swaying and sliding on surfaces.
Not trying rain on this thread or anything, but please explain this. This doesn't sound like the Thief that I'm playing.
Judith on 6/9/2018 at 17:08
Thief movement has both the head bobbing and this uncontrollable momentum you get while running, that's especially apparent when running down sloped surfaces. It feels more like drunk ballerina than anything else. And even with new mantle the movement isn't exactly fluid. And while TDM engine has its flaws, the movement is much more snappy. If you play modern games on regular basis, you know the difference. Which is not at all surprising, as Thief is pretty old now. As TDM is based on engine from more recent era, it has more modern feel to its controls. Maybe it's not Dishonored, but it feels good :)
