fett on 3/4/2006 at 01:28

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I liked this game but was actually shocked that people comapre it to Thief because of how annoyingly linear it becomes. I've rarely felt so led around by the nose in a game. It was far less 'thiefy' than DX or even NOLF but for some reason everyone draws a close comparison between SC and Thief. Stealth doesn't work without options - largely speaking there must be options for method (of accomplishing objectives or dispatching an enemy) but there must also be options in terms of approach (how many paths (both vertical and horizontal), doorways, etc.). Splinter Cell barely suceeds with the former, and fails miserably with the later. Don't get me wrong - overall it's a great game, but I didn't feel any similarities to Thief in the philisophical sense.

the hermit on 4/4/2006 at 09:13

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The closest game I ever saw to the Thief series, speaking only in terms of gameplay and not by any stretch of the imagination in terms of character, was No One Lives Forever 2. It was a 70s-era-James-Bond-themed first person shooter that gave the player the ability to hide in shadows, knockout opponents or kill them, pick up bodies, pick locks, read notes. I once lured a guard out by leaving a trail of footprints in the snow; he saw them, got suspicious (but not too suspicious), and followed them around a corner where I could dispatch him without being seen by the others. Best of all it contained a large number of humorous conversations between guards. It fell short because killing opponents was easy even on the highest difficulty and because some times your opponents were just too ridiculous, like the army of french mimes. NOLF2 was put out way back in 2002 by Monolith. An unofficial toolkit for editors was apparently put out in 2003 according to Fileplanet, but their mod community seems to be pretty small and more or less limited to deathmatch play. I've replayed the game a couple of times over the years, and I'll always have a fondness for it.

fett on 4/4/2006 at 20:14

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I hear ya hermit. NOLF (both 1 and 2) were excellent games in their own right. Great immersion, attempt at plot, lots of readables, etc. I think they were so kitchy that it's hard to compare them to Thief ambient/darkness feel. Kate Archer was a good lead character and the weapons were fun.

Kaleid on 6/4/2006 at 00:13

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Aurora Watching was a game that nobody seemed to notice. I kind of enjoyed it. Try this demo:
(http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/aurorawatching/aurorawatching_demo.exe.html)

Micro on 7/4/2006 at 15:15

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Sorry to have to contradict you, but a couple of you are just elitist ***holes.



You know, you may very well be right about the second part, but considering that CT is a sneaker game, you are just an idiot.

As as for it "plain suck"ing, obviously you have no real opinion, as the game was far better technology wise, far better user interface wise, and while the plot wasn't as good, it had a good plot non the less.

So let me repeat, you are elitist ***holes.