Neb on 11/5/2009 at 14:12

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Less than 100 more needed to break the Bioshock record. :D

samcoarse on 11/5/2009 at 14:16

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I'd prefer it if this time they stuck more with the fundamentals of thieving. I'm a huge fan of Thief 2 and when T3 came out there was the noticeable aftershocks of gaming perfection still echoing from its ancestor in game play, storyline somewhat, themes etc, but there was something a bit off about it (granted I played the xbox version and you could see rune's radiating through walls and it was graphically a mess). I'm surprised however, to read one person claiming that the supernatural isn't something that should be debated when creating this new installment.

One thing that threw me in T2 was the section with the apemen?? It came pretty much out of the blue, I have an open mind and when I started playing I was entrapped in the mystique of sneaking through these mechanic hybrid medieval manors, chapels, the cobblestone electricity lighted streets, art galleries, the police station!! The Gaul! The combination was pristine and then the apemen section demanded to be endured. I can understand it was a plot line but I could have accepted them easier without the sudden fantasy turn of events in the game, perhaps with another, more human species?

T3 had the same issue with what I thought were rather crude characters. the humanoid animals really broke the suspense and turned it into a less immersing experience. Some of you may disagree entirely, I can understand that's your concept of a fine gaming experience but I think it took away from the actual core ideology of being a highly cynical, thumb biting, pre-meditated thief that T2 portrayed so well. Perhaps veiling a fact that there were limits on what the engine or imagination could put forward and replacing it with a mild storyline.

I can handle the supernatural in small quantities like the ghostly knight patrolling the catacombs in T2 but too much like the abandoned orphanage that also used to be a mental institute in T3 brought on my usual cynical mind-frame again. So yea, I personally wouldn't mind a divorce from the fantasy for a turn towards the specifics of thieving, lockpicks, climbables, pickpocketing and stealth and towards a certain realism in T4.

Everyone has something valuable on them, every house has its stash. I'm sure if you delve deep enough you might even find a storyline.. ;)

jtr7 on 11/5/2009 at 14:21

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Oh, haha, I know that! I made a series of jokes in a row!

I still want the classic "E" back.

mothra on 11/5/2009 at 14:25

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well said, fantasy elements certainly are not a must for me. like beautifully described above: the basics of thieving ! the tools, the planning, the execution, the chance for variation/adaption, even a hasty escape and all embedded into an interesting location and storyline.

Cobak on 11/5/2009 at 14:30

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i had to register with a 2nd screenname before it worked for me