jkcerda on 24/9/2018 at 02:17
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-news-brett-kavanaugh-gang-rape-avenatti-20180923-story.html#)
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“We are aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s during which Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs in order to allow a ‘train' of men to subsequently gang rape them,” Avenatti said in an email to Mike Davis, chief counsel for nominations for the Senate Judiciary Committee.
desperation grows
Vae on 24/9/2018 at 02:56
Yes, they are desperate...but it's much more than that.
This is all part of the well-coordinated effort that I was talking about. Now that the Dems have achieved "Step 1", (the successful delaying of her testimony to Thursday), they've created a window of opportunity. The next step is to fabricate more unsubstantiated claims, in line with first one (sexual misconduct). You see, even though these assertions are technically baseless and invalid, they'll be used to create the illusion of a "pattern of behavior". The idea here is to use emotional manipulation to trigger enough reaction to either further delay the confirmation, or to eliminate it entirely.
The reason why this strategy has a possibility of working, is because when people are triggered emotionally, even when duped, those emotions are still real to them, and the associated outer reality feels more credible.
This is a demonstration of how weaponizing emotion works to further a political agenda...and I'm curious to see how the game will play out.
Tocky on 24/9/2018 at 03:13
LOL. Y'all were saying there was nobody else who came forward and now that there is they are a liar too! Seriously? Find a fucking mirror.
Vae on 24/9/2018 at 03:18
Quote Posted by jkcerda
Should trigger the red wave
That all depends on how well the Dems play their hand.
Keep in mind, the Democrat elite are experts on manipulating people with guilt, shame, and fear...so I wouldn't underestimate what can happen here.
Although, there's a good chance that even if the Dems are successful at manipulating the perception of Kavanaugh, it would likely result in a
Pyrrhic victory...bringing a "red wave", in November.
jkcerda on 24/9/2018 at 03:23
Quote Posted by Vae
Yes, they are desperate...but it's much more than that.
This is all part of the well-coordinated effort that I was talking about. Now that the Dems have achieved "Step 1", (the successful delaying of her testimony to Thursday), they've created a window of opportunity. The next step is to fabricate more unsubstantiated claims, in line with first one (sexual misconduct). You see, even though these assertions are technically baseless and invalid, they'll be used to create the illusion of a "pattern of behavior". The idea here is to use emotional manipulation to trigger enough reaction to either further delay the confirmation, or to eliminate it entirely.
The reason why this strategy has a possibility of working, is because when people are triggered emotionally, even when duped,
those emotions are still real to them, and the associated outer reality feels more credible.
This is a demonstration of how weaponizing emotion works to further a political agenda...and I'm curious to see how the game will play out.
Quote Posted by Tocky
LOL. Y'all were saying there was nobody else who came forward and now that there is they are a liar too! Seriously? Find a fucking mirror.
the people mentioned are ALL saying it's not true. , yeah find a fucking mirror that tells you what it is instead of what you want to hear
Vae on 24/9/2018 at 04:14
I understand, jk...it's obviously a smear campaign, and the Dems will have to do better than that, by Thursday...but they still have time to come up with a few more tricks.
Renzatic on 24/9/2018 at 04:21
Quote Posted by Vae
This is a demonstration of how weaponizing emotion works to further a political agenda...and I'm curious to see how the game will play out.
Shit like that makes you mad, don't it?
Starker on 24/9/2018 at 04:37
Maybe not ALL of the people mentioned:
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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/senate-democrats-investigate-a-new-allegation-of-sexual-misconduct-from-the-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaughs-college-years-deborah-ramirez)
A classmate of Ramirez's, who declined to be identified because of the partisan battle over Kavanaugh's nomination, said that another student told him about the incident either on the night of the party or in the next day or two. The classmate said that he is “one-hundred-per-cent sure” that he was told at the time that Kavanaugh was the student who exposed himself to Ramirez. He independently recalled many of the same details offered by Ramirez, including that a male student had encouraged Kavanaugh as he exposed himself. The classmate, like Ramirez, recalled that the party took place in a common room on the first floor in Entryway B of Lawrance Hall, during their freshman year. “I've known this all along,” he said. “It's been on my mind all these years when his name came up. It was a big deal.” The story stayed with him, he said, because it was disturbing and seemed outside the bounds of typically acceptable behavior, even during heavy drinking at parties on campus. The classmate said that he had been shocked, but not necessarily surprised, because the social group to which Kavanaugh belonged often drank to excess. He recalled Kavanaugh as “relatively shy” until he drank, at which point he said that Kavanaugh could become “aggressive and even belligerent.”
Another classmate, Richard Oh, an emergency-room doctor in California, recalled overhearing, soon after the party, a female student tearfully recounting to another student an incident at a party involving a gag with a fake penis, followed by a male student exposing himself. Oh is not certain of the identity of the female student. Ramirez told her mother and sister about an upsetting incident at the time, but did not describe the details to either due to her embarrassment.
Mark Krasberg, an assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of New Mexico who was also a member of Kavanaugh and Ramirez's class at Yale, said Kavanaugh's college behavior had become a topic of discussion among former Yale students soon after Kavanaugh's nomination. In one e-mail that Krasberg received in September, the classmate who recalled hearing about the incident with Ramirez alluded to the allegation and wrote that it “would qualify as a sexual assault,” he speculated, “if it's true.”
Vae on 24/9/2018 at 04:48
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Shit like that makes you mad, don't it?
Only on Sundays!...:mad: