Ok, let's talk about tactics... - by Wargrunt
Wargrunt on 13/5/2001 at 00:17
So, what's your favorite aproach (I know that most missions require a specific or not so specific tactics, so let's talk about Ramdom missions)?
I personally fit myself and most of my squad mates with Standard suit (I ended the World War difficult level using a standard suit, the only bad thing 'bout it is that you can't use the badass MB-Acellerator).
I'll set my weaponry depending on the enemies I choose (Pirates will deserve Lasers, Multi Pulsars and grenades, while the MK3 Clones will deserve Ionic Fusion Rifles, Particle Beam and Missile launchers for example).
Then I'll disable infinite Radar (I want the pleasure of hunting down my enemies, that's good too because I give extra uses to the drones and the zoom)
Now, on my squad mates side. Eletronic specialists are useless on Random Mission 'cos they are just needed to complete objectives or to rewire turrets, which are none on random missions.
Demoliton Specialists can set charges which cause devastating damage but need your atention to work, for example, on maps with straight areas or limiting terrain you could place two charges and atract your enemies to your position, as soon as the enemies are on position just blast em.
Repair Specialists are useful if you don't have that ASF which repairs (can't remember the name) and only when you had set lots of enemies so the mission will take some time.
Recon specialists are useless if you are good with drones (though they are useless after destroyed...) and zooming to know the enemy position.
The weapons specialists are the most useful in your team as they have better aim and will consequently kill more enemies.
Now on squadmates outfit I'll set more or less the same than with me, except that I will give one a scout suit because of the longer sensor range. And may let one of them using a Heavy suit for that emergency MB-Acellerator....
On pre mission that's all I can think of now. Gonna write more later, feel free to add to this and disagree.
Brad Schoonmaker on 13/5/2001 at 00:34
Remind me not to get in a war against you. :eek: <IMG SRC="joker.gif" border="0">
Myself, I just do the best I can. :p
Brad S.
Wargrunt on 13/5/2001 at 06:20
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<STRONG>Remind me not to get in a war against you. :eek: <IMG SRC="joker.gif" border="0">
Myself, I just do the best I can. :p
Brad S.</STRONG>
Sorry, I meant no offense, had I said anything wrong? (if that's the case I'm sorry, I'm new here)
Shadowcat on 13/5/2001 at 11:06
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Hi Wargrunt!
Always great to see a new squadmate in the forums :)
To be honest, I don't tend to modify my random mission loadouts to specific enemies; I just decide whether to make things easier or harder for myself on a whim... Lasers for hard missions, Ionic Fusion Rifle for easier ones. Likewise projectile weapons, suit selection, and number of squadmates.
I sometimes go solo into heavy comnbat with just a scout suit armed with a laser and some grenades. It's not uncommon for me to die doing that :)
If I'm going for an all-out slaughter I'll arm my squadmates with heavy suits and personal shields. I often stick to a dynamo for my own ASF, in order to get more out of my beam weapons and jump jets.
I've actually never tried the final mission on world war with only standard suits! I think I'm going to have to give that a go :)
> the only bad thing 'bout it is that you can't use the badass MB-Acellerator).
Yep! I usually take out half their defenses before even entering close combat, so this would be a real challenge!
> Then I'll disable infinite Radar (I want the pleasure of
> hunting down my enemies, that's good too because I give
> extra uses to the drones and the zoom)
I confess I usually leave the cheat radar on, as otherwise it can take a while to find them. (If the pirates actively hunted you down, I don't think I'd use it.)
> Now, on my squad mates side. [....]
I agree with your comments on specialists. I invariably go with weapons and sometimes repair. The regular exception is that I like to take Maggie along, 'cause she kicks butt :)
> Recon specialists are useless if you are good with drones
I'd use drones much more often if I didn't use the radar cheat. I really ought to play for a bit without infinite radar.
> and zooming to know the enemy position.
Oh, I love the zoom :)
> Now on squadmates outfit I'll set more or less the same than with me,
> except that I will give one a scout suit because of the longer sensor range.
Good tactic. I hardly ever do this, but it's a pretty good move if you have to hunt them down...
> And may let one of them using a Heavy suit for that emergency MB-Acellerator....
heh :) Half the time I don't trust them not to blow each other up with those things! :)
> On pre mission that's all I can think of now. Gonna write more later,
> feel free to add to this and disagree.
I look forward to seeing more from you. Welcome aboard, soldier!
[ May 21, 2001: Message edited by: Shadowcat ]
Brad Schoonmaker on 13/5/2001 at 15:13
Wargrunt, you weren't offensive at all. You seem to put a lot of tactical knowledge to use in this game. I was just saying that I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of a skirmish with you. :)
You remind me of another forum member that posted on the old boards many times about Terra Nova campaigns he'd had. It was a little intimidating hearing about it, sometimes.
As I said, though, a lot of the time I just keep my own at normal difficulty settings. I guess I'm not as much of a commander as some.
Brad S.
Wargrunt on 14/5/2001 at 00:55
It's a pleasure to be aboard Shadowcat, it's a very good thing to find other loyal TN fans.
Well, about being efficient in combat the best thing to do is to use "Q;W;E;A;D;Z;X;C" to the controls, this way your hand is closer to numbers letting you punch the 5 to activate the personal shield as soon as the enemy fire at you, it also makes it possible to turn (A and D) and dodge (Z and C) at the same time, this is a basic to play in World War level and come back to New Hope in one piece.
Shadowcat on 14/5/2001 at 04:24
I'd comletely forgotten there were even alternatives to those keys at all. Cursor keys work as well, do they? :)
The side-step-and-turn circling technique is definitely a requirement (especially when using the laser/fusion rifle...)
Shadowcat on 14/5/2001 at 13:38
> I personally fit myself and most of my squad mates with Standard suit
> (I ended the World War difficult level using a standard suit,
> the only bad thing 'bout it is that you can't use the badass MB-Acellerator).
So I know I'm already getting myself into enough trouble when I try the end-game in a standard suit, but has anyone ever attempted and succeeded this mission at normal-or-higher difficulty with everyone in Scout PBA? :)
(Or maybe yourself in in Scout suit, and everyone else in Standard -- I suspect they're not smart enough to survive it otherwise, except by luck...)
Maybe I could lead the enemy into ambushes outside the gates...
Wargrunt on 20/5/2001 at 13:35
Well, actually the hardest part is to let Brandt alive during the mission... anyway, by holding shift you also move faster but have less control, may come in handy on WW lvl.
I personaly use the Ion Fusion Rifle, Grenade Launcher and Missile Launcher on the last mission, the Grenades are for the Light turrets(3 of them can take out the turret) and some crowd control, Missile is for those tanks and crowd control too and of course the Personal Shield ASF is a must...
Now with just scout suits... THAT would be a real challenge...I'll try it.
Shadowcat on 20/5/2001 at 17:34
D'oh; I'd completely forgotten my own challenge (such as it was) !
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[edit: Ah hell... I only just realised that I left the difficulty on normal for the following attempts. Damn; not as good as I thought :) ]Well I went ahead with my not-<em>completely</em>-suicidal version of the mission, with myself in Scout PBA, and everyone else in Standard. I ate a grenade in my first attempt, and made it out alone on my second. (Brandt bought it on the way out; my fault for not sending him to the pick-up point when I tried to finish the bad guys off... :/ )
(Actually Brandt went evac early on the first time, but I carried on to see if I could survive... :)
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I personaly use the Ion Fusion Rifle, Grenade Launcher and Missile Launcher on the last mission
Yep, that was what I gave the others to play with. Fusion Rifle and Grenades for myself.
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and of course the Personal Shield ASF is a must...
Well I gave personal shields to the others, but auto-turrets for myself, just as I do with everyone in Heavy PBA. (I maintain that auto-turrets rule in this mission.)
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Now with just scout suits... THAT would be a real challenge...I'll try it.
Me too. But not tonight :)
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