Krush on 7/9/2017 at 15:36
Man I'm so psyched up about that Death's Cold Embrace FM coming out soon aren't you?
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 17:04
Cool cherry-picking there, basso. I'm sure all of us get it; but if you want to actually play the game, now compare those to the total amount of terrorist attacks by every other group across all those world locations across the same time period.
If that's too much work for you, too bad. But you really should, you know, (
http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619) start from somewhere where the stats don't make people go ¿Qué?.
If you can't do that, do the general public the courtesy of screwing off and never coming back.
Also, open question: do we really need this shit in CommChat?
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 17:33
Okay, first off, people. This is a political thread concerning a heated political topic. Some people will have their shitty opinions, sure, but this is the place to air them. If someone says something that offends your sensibilities, you can call them assholes, and argue a counterpoint, you can laugh at them and call them stupid, or you can ignore them. Provided that they keep these opinions confined to their proper places, I see no reason to act against them.
Now there are some things I won't tolerate. People being openly racist against individual members here, and/or happily endorsing hate or terrorist groups will be nixed pretty quicklike. Also, people who are just slackjaw fuckwit nutty, constantly posting the most insane conspiracy theories with no factual basis tend to irk my ire. If you run around calling people racial slurs, or don't cite your sources (or don't read them fully before posting them), I'll time them out without a second thought.
Right now Krush and Bassolferol are toeing that fine line. There's no denying the fact that we've seen a rise in Islamic terror since 2001, committed by some pretty shitty people, but to use these actions as proof that the problem are Muslim people as a whole, and WE MUST RID OURSELVES OF THEM NOW is a step beyond any usual observation, and could very easily be construed as some random racist screed. The only reason I let them jump off into their flights of terrible fancy is because we don't have any Muslim members here (that I know of), and they're countered pretty quicklike.
As for the list above, collecting a list like that, and posting it for all the world to see would make anyone look bad. Yeah, there are a lot of terrorist groups out there, and some people have done some shitty thing. Where it fails is that you can't use it as proof against Islam as a whole. You're always going to have shitty people doing shitty things, no matter what race, religion, or demographic. You could easily make a list that long of white supremacist groups or Christian extremists who have acted over the years, and it won't prove anything against white people or Christianity as a whole. It's a common tactic, used to indict billions of people by showing us the actions of the relative extremist few. Everything looks scary on a big list like that.
...but instead, you all ignore the fact that we've had Muslims in this country for decades, centuries, and got no more static out of them than any other crazed idiot groups on the streets.
Daxim on 7/9/2017 at 17:35
This is the second time already that people (first Starker, now Sulphur) try to derail the thread conversation by posting what happens in America. Stop it. It is not relevant/an incredible weak argument because
* a European country is under discussion
* terrorism is a predominantly perpetrated by Muslims globally, in Europe, in Africa, in Asia
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 17:47
Let me correct you there:
1. It was a European country under discussion; it's now a free-for-all because that's the flavour of the day thanks to Krush et al.
2. Terrorism is predominantly perpetrated globally by terrorists; some of whom may be Muslims.
I suppose it must not be fun for you folks living in countries where the minority's out to oppress you/eat your babies. Fun fact: I live in Asia. I live in a country with millions of Muslims, they're at the office, they're on our streets, they're *gasp* living next to us. We've been nearly at war with Pakistan for over half a century.
And yet, the vast majority of us in the mainland found a way to coexist. It's almost as if extremists tend to be a minority in any population, and over here, Muslims are a minority to begin with. How weird is that?
Renzatic: um, no, those aren't toeing any fine lines. They've been crossed.
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 18:02
Specifically, most terror is perpetrated by Wahhabist Sunnis, who go around attacking everyone who isn't them. Their prolithicness is partially our fault, because we took what should've been a regional group of crazies in a backwater country, and pumped them up with billions of dollars, and tons of weaponry to bolster our own interests in a region we shouldn't even be involved with.
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 18:08
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Renzatic: um, no, those aren't toeing any fine lines. They've been crossed.
There's also the fact that, like Henke said, I'm rather worried about the site becoming a left-leaning echo chamber.
We need better quality right-leaning posters.
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 18:12
Since when has being racist been a matter of how bad your posture is?
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 18:29
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Since when has being racist been a matter of how bad your posture is?
Racists do tend to have excellent poster, weirdly enough. You know, cuz all that goosestepping.
