Trance on 7/9/2017 at 18:32
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Racists do tend to have excellent poster, weirdly enough. You know, cuz all that goosestepping.
They've all got bad knees though.
rachel on 7/9/2017 at 18:42
I live two blocks away from the Sagrada Familia (which they wanted to blow up) and I used to work literally across the square from the Ramblas.
Too close for comfort? You bet. But I will not let that cloud my judgment.
These people can call themselves muslims all they want but they are not. I lived right next to the Ramblas in the Raval neighborhood, which is predominantly muslim with a huge Pakistani community, for five years and I've never felt more at home in Barcelona. They are kind, wonderful people and they were DEVASTATED by what happened.
The men who commit these attacks can be misguided, psychos, or a bit of both maybe. But they are NOTHING against the compassion and love I've seen displayed here.
The risk of attacks is a part of our life now, it would be foolish to deny it, but I will not be afraid. They don't get to win that kind of power.
Renault on 7/9/2017 at 19:09
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Now there are some things I won't tolerate. People being openly racist against individual members here, and/or happily endorsing hate or terrorist groups will be nixed pretty quicklike.
That's already happened though. Saying you're a member of the alt-right is essentially saying you're a white supremacist.
Renzatic on 7/9/2017 at 19:18
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here, assuming he's mistaking the alt-right for the isolationist America First populism that's currently sweeping the country.
If you are, Krush, remember that there's a huge difference between the populist "I don't have a problem with other people, but we need to concern ourselves with American workers, American goods, and American interests ahead of everything else", and Richard Spencer's ethno-centric Nazi Lite nationalism.
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 19:26
Yeah, we've already told you you're being too soft here. Repeatedly. Get off the fence or go home.
I wonder what happens if I report a mod post. Does it print an exclamation mark on foolscap that's rolled up and sent down a set of pneumatic tubes to somewhere in the Hague?
Daxim on 7/9/2017 at 19:29
raph: What good is your anecdote? That's not how arguments work.
For a rational understanding of reality, do not look at insular persons, but examine the different mindsets of the people as a whole.
If your country's statistics are anything like mine, then for each two of those kind wonderful persons there is one fundamentalist who does not condemn the attacks, or even commends the terrorists for increasing the glory of god. That's a problem.
Krush on 7/9/2017 at 19:30
I've posted before that the people who show up with swastikas and KKK hoods are idiots who only damage the "rightist" cause.
Alt-Right means you're a conservative who finally figured out that the Republican party has never been effective and will never accomplish anything (and is essentially just an arm of the Democrats anyway), so you're looking to win rather than accept noble defeat after noble defeat. Hence not of the "traditional" Right (failed Republican party) but the "alternative" Right - aka Alt-right.
Renault on 7/9/2017 at 19:31
I seriously doubt the guy is going to flat out admit he's a Nazi.
Edit: Ninja'd, and proven correct.
Sulphur on 7/9/2017 at 19:33
Quote Posted by Daxim
raph: What good is your anecdote? That's not how arguments work.
For a rational understanding of reality, do not look at insular persons, but examine the different mindsets of the people as a whole.
If your country's statistics are anything like mine, then for each two of those kind wonderful persons there is one fundamentalist who does not condemn the attacks, or even commends the terrorists for increasing the glory of god. That's a problem.
In rejoinder: what good is yours? Which it is, because I don't know what statistics you're talking about, or any study that's actually been about demarcating the % of radical fundamentalists that exist within an Islamic population. Please cite.
Krush on 7/9/2017 at 19:38
Nice kafkatrap there Brethren. So if I say I'm a Nazi, I'm banned. If I say I'm not a Nazi, then that proves I am one but won't admit it?
Is that really how this is going to work? Anyway, the Nazis lost so why would I want to be one?
